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If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it.

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  • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
    @evacide lol they put them in Verona?????? Why?????????? there's literally nothing that ever happens in that town
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    @evacide the biggest crime that ever happens in Verona is if Culver's forgets something in your drive-thru order
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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      @mdione @adapalmer I believe this theory was first articulated in Field of Dreams: if you build it, they will come.

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      @evacide @adapalmer yeah, more in the sense of "if you build a baseball stadium, they will come and play baseball, but the next generation might play football, or soccer, or use it to burn books".

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      • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

        @evacide @adapalmer yeah, more in the sense of "if you build a baseball stadium, they will come and play baseball, but the next generation might play football, or soccer, or use it to burn books".

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        @mdione @adapalmer If you build a surveillance state, they will come and do surveillance.

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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          @evacide
          Trashbags over the cameras is such an elegant solution…

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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            @evacide
            Don't be the product! They sell you out.
            “The fact that they didn’t take the cameras down shows that we are the product,” Diaz said. “They were never really selling to us in the first place. What they are doing is selling to much bigger agencies the ability to spy on a ton of people.”

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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              @evacide Give Barney Fife a joystick and see what happens...

              CM Thiede (@cmthiede@vivaldi.net)

              Keep saying it doesn't worry you because you have nothing to hide, when in reality there's nowhere to hide and you should be very worried. https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2026/03/15/police-misuse-of-flock-surveillance-becoming-statewide-issue/ #Flock #Police #Wisconsin #Surveillance #SurveillanceState #Privacy #TrumanShow #fascism #BigBrother

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                This Wisconsin City Ditched AI Surveillance Cameras. Now Activists Want to Keep Going. - Bolts

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                @evacide

                Everybody now:

                Death, death, death to the surveillance state

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                  This Wisconsin City Ditched AI Surveillance Cameras. Now Activists Want to Keep Going. - Bolts

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                  @evacide The city of Austin let their contract with Flock lapse after community input, then a few months later, the Texas DPS signed a contract to continue paying for them. Before this, some of the public was asking the government to take them down, but the government refused saying they're "private property" so they cannot. I have no doubt that Flock is using the cameras left up on some way; these people are actively hostile to the idea of consent.

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                    This Wisconsin City Ditched AI Surveillance Cameras. Now Activists Want to Keep Going. - Bolts

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                    @evacide

                    Yep. You have to take that surveillance equipment out, even or especially if your private sector vendor "gave" it to you for free, so long as it could process the resulting data.

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                      This Wisconsin City Ditched AI Surveillance Cameras. Now Activists Want to Keep Going. - Bolts

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                      @evacide

                      Actual Targeted Individual here...

                      Stay away from cameras.

                      They exist to bolster state power only.

                      They are not meant to protect you.

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                      • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
                        @evacide lol they put them in Verona?????? Why?????????? there's literally nothing that ever happens in that town
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                        @feld @evacide Because folks drive through it.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                          @evacide
                          I imagine paintball guns might become a popular practavist gift.

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                            @evacide This is exactly right. Infrastructure creates its own demand. Nobody builds a panopticon and then decides not to look.

                            South Australia just passed donation transparency laws for Saturday's election. The optimist in me says the same principle works in reverse — build transparency infrastructure and it becomes harder to undo.

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                              @evacide Give Barney Fife a joystick and see what happens...

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                              Keep saying it doesn't worry you because you have nothing to hide, when in reality there's nowhere to hide and you should be very worried. https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2026/03/15/police-misuse-of-flock-surveillance-becoming-statewide-issue/ #Flock #Police #Wisconsin #Surveillance #SurveillanceState #Privacy #TrumanShow #fascism #BigBrother

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                              @cmthiede @evacide

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                              • minentromaxinfo@defcon.socialM minentromaxinfo@defcon.social

                                @evacide I think it's time for some nation (and continent) wide smashy smashy time. Toronto couldn't keep their speed cameras up for more than a few days in some locations.

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                                @minentromaxinfo @evacide in one specific place, yes: https://www.cp24.com/local/toronto/2025/09/07/torontos-parkside-speed-camera-cut-down-for-7th-time-in-less-than-a-year/ (which you might think would make it easy to catch the repeat offender, but bear with me until my third link)

                                There _was_ a city-wide swath of speed cam vandalism around the city at that time: https://globalnews.ca/news/11404488/toronto-speed-cameras-cut-down/ (though not repeat vandalism like on Parkside)

                                It is curious that our illustrious drug-dealing premier won political points with his base by demonizing speedcams & removing them: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/all-of-toronto-s-speed-cameras-are-gone-how-did-we-get-to-this-point-9.6995207

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                                  @minentromaxinfo @evacide in one specific place, yes: https://www.cp24.com/local/toronto/2025/09/07/torontos-parkside-speed-camera-cut-down-for-7th-time-in-less-than-a-year/ (which you might think would make it easy to catch the repeat offender, but bear with me until my third link)

                                  There _was_ a city-wide swath of speed cam vandalism around the city at that time: https://globalnews.ca/news/11404488/toronto-speed-cameras-cut-down/ (though not repeat vandalism like on Parkside)

                                  It is curious that our illustrious drug-dealing premier won political points with his base by demonizing speedcams & removing them: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/all-of-toronto-s-speed-cameras-are-gone-how-did-we-get-to-this-point-9.6995207

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                                  @minentromaxinfo @evacide (I am in favor of speed cams because they demonstrably diminish the number of people, primarily senior citizens and young children, killed and injured by motorists every year. But I am also in favor of pushing back *very* hard on broad surveillance tools. Pipe cutters and a three-lookout duty team with Baofeng radios are cheap.)

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                                    @evacide Hell yeah!!!!

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                                      @evacide@hachyderm.io Also, this is just an other example of ACAB.
                                      They basically sold the life of all the residents to get some more power over them.

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                                        @evacide u can't remove surveillance 💯 %from human life

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                                          If you leave the infrastructure of surveillance in place, people in power will inevitably find an excuse to resume using it. You have to take that shit down.

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                                          @evacide A new twist on the old IT reality - no one wants to be the one responsible for building the database, but once you do, everyone will find a way to misuse it.

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