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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

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  • brokar@mastodon.socialB brokar@mastodon.social

    @gerrymcgovern If this will ever get built, i wonder how this turns out if for example the electricity fails and all the emergency generators (must be hundreds of them) spin up all at once. This is neither eco friendly (most certainly gas powered) nor a silent operation, considering that people live around that area.
    This will so drastically devalue your property and your quality of life if you currently live near this area.
    When they start construction, you better move far away while you can.

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    @Brokar @gerrymcgovern they run the data center directly off the emergency generators. No electricity hookup needed.

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    • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
      As atom bombs vary in explodieness, I assume that means the smallest, weakest atom bomb ever exploded. Which is still terrible. The 50-something terajoule "Little Boy" was what devastated Hiroshima. So 23 Hiroshimas, is what they're talking about. At a "16 gigawatt thermal load" that means 57.6 terajoules per hour. Multiply that by 24, divide by 23, comes pretty close to 23 60-terajoule bombs every day.

      For scale, it would take that data center 3,600 hours to give off as much heat as the largest nuclear bomb ever exploded, Tsar Bomba. Which is about 5 months. TSAR BOMBA EVERY 5 MONTHS IS STILL PRETTY BAD
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      @cy how many hurricanes?
      1 hurricane = 600TW. So it's 0.00003 hurricanes.

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      • shivviness@beige.partyS shivviness@beige.party

        @gerrymcgovern

        We know that when inevitably this monstrosity datacentre's energy and water needs encroach on local people's needs that our ruling class will simply allow it to happen and sod the human cost.

        And all because some oligarch somewhere wants to cut his wage bill.

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        @Shivviness @gerrymcgovern
        Massive Ontario warehouse set on fire by alleged arsonist to be demolished
        https://nypost.com/2026/05/11/us-news/massive-ontario-warehouse-set-on-fire-by-alleged-arsonist-to-be-demolished/

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        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

          This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

          The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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          @gerrymcgovern Who is greenlighting these monsters?

          Or more appropriately, who is being paid to permit them?

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          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

            This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

            The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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            This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife

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            @gerrymcgovern I don't want AI because this was obvious. What is less obvious, is why anyone else does. AI should be a few research projects at this point. Will the AI Winter be this year or next? Do we have another year?

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            • W woo@fosstodon.org

              @gerrymcgovern I don't want AI because this was obvious. What is less obvious, is why anyone else does. AI should be a few research projects at this point. Will the AI Winter be this year or next? Do we have another year?

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              @woo it can't come soon enough. AI feels like a death dance in the final days of a Growth Death Cult.

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              • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                @gerrymcgovern hmm, dropping atom bombs would be a solution when the data center is finished.

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                @assimilateborg @gerrymcgovern Yeah, one to demolish the data center one time seems like a much better outcome than 23 every day...

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                • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                  @gerrymcgovern hmm, dropping atom bombs would be a solution when the data center is finished.

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                  @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg It'd probably be more effective to drop them on the mansions of the rich people who keep doing shit like this. You know, get to the root of the problem.
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                  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                    This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                    The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                    @gerrymcgovern

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                    • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                      This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                      The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                      This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

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                      @gerrymcgovern it's not so much the stupidity... actually it's exactly the stupidity .

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                      • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com
                        @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg It'd probably be more effective to drop them on the mansions of the rich people who keep doing shit like this. You know, get to the root of the problem.
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                        @tk @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg Unfortunately, some luxury bunkers are built with tech that's being kept from the masses, for this very reason.

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                        • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                          @Brokar @gerrymcgovern they run the data center directly off the emergency generators. No electricity hookup needed.

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                          Oh that's so much better, thank goodness. 😱
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                          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                            This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                            The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                            @gerrymcgovern
                            How can it be 9gw electricity, but 16gw thermal load?
                            9gw would require like 6 medium size nuclear power plants, not a gas power plant.
                            Crazy numbers.

                            Ai is the holy grail, but at this cost and no idea if it's even going anywhere. It's like the train has started, everybody is burning fuel to go as far as possible, but is the train even pointed at the right direction?

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                            • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                              This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                              The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                              This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife

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                              @gerrymcgovern A state governed by white Republicans with deregulation as a religion. Not surprised. When their electric bills quadruple, they will blame Obama.

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                              • eldersea@expressional.socialE eldersea@expressional.social

                                @publicwondering @gerrymcgovern

                                That sentence caught me too. The "global ai race" isn't real because ai isn't real, you idiots. You can't evolve horses into motors (thanks Cory).

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                                @eldersea @publicwondering @gerrymcgovern Feels more like they're taking paintings of horses and sticking them in front of carriages to me. Except they've somehow found the most inefficient possible way of painting too. They just keep insisting over and over that they're real horses, so people believe them just because they keep saying it — especially the CEOs really excited by the thought of killing the real horses to make glue.

                                It's a heck of a scam.

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                                  @cy @gerrymcgovern first thing i thought of, too. wouldn't be surprised if this is that, upgraded

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                                  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                                    This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                                    The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                                    @gerrymcgovern Nothing says #TheCapitalistEndGame better than this.

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                                    • eldersea@expressional.socialE eldersea@expressional.social

                                      @publicwondering @gerrymcgovern

                                      That sentence caught me too. The "global ai race" isn't real because ai isn't real, you idiots. You can't evolve horses into motors (thanks Cory).

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                                      @eldersea @publicwondering @gerrymcgovern With such a environmentally caustic endeavor in any sane system, government would be running a consolidated effort making these entities work together, not open multiple (30 in the US?) energy sucking, water consuming, and environment harming, competing for corporate profits. But this is the new age of tycoons and capitalism run amuck. 💥#TheCapitalistEndGame

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                                      • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                                        @gerrymcgovern
                                        This is just one (planned) datacenter of many already existing and even more planned.
                                        To me: All those would only make sense in a dystopian scenario like matrix, skynet or whatever similar... then nonfictional.
                                        None of such scenarios would be good for humans anywhere, not to mention the environment.

                                        So who is promoting such projects for what purpose really anyway?

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                                        @grootinside @gerrymcgovern Answer: This is the run away, unsupervised by responsible adults, corrupted crap game run by competing profit and power Corpo entities run on the back of the Nation (as I see it in the US), the table controlled by the fat cat GOP dealers in support of the Trump House, who sincerely feels democracy stands in the way of his scams, power, sick and psycho whims.
                                        #TheCapitalistEndGame

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