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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

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  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

    This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

    The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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    As atom bombs vary in explodieness, I assume that means the smallest, weakest atom bomb ever exploded. Which is still terrible. The 50-something terajoule "Little Boy" was what devastated Hiroshima. So 23 Hiroshimas, is what they're talking about. At a "16 gigawatt thermal load" that means 57.6 terajoules per hour. Multiply that by 24, divide by 23, comes pretty close to 23 60-terajoule bombs every day.

    For scale, it would take that data center 3,600 hours to give off as much heat as the largest nuclear bomb ever exploded, Tsar Bomba. Which is about 5 months. TSAR BOMBA EVERY 5 MONTHS IS STILL PRETTY BAD
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    • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

      @minentromaxinfo yeah sounds like a good analysis. So much grifting going on, on so many levels.

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      @gerrymcgovern @minentromaxinfo I start to wonder if these delusional horror shows are touted to make us responsible types fret and distract us from some other, more realistic, evil?

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      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

        @gerrymcgovern

        Oh Lord, this thing. The joke in all this is that there may not be the power or the water for it. That much energy is going to require a lot more water to be dissipated, and that means regional evaporation rates are going to go up, which might cause some unexpected forms of weather. I would not trust their water usage claims more than I would trust their employment claims, and the fact the city Council steamrolled the residents says corruption and money

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        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gerrymcgovern

        When you suck that much water out of the ground, it virtually always impacts the surrounding aquifers and surface streams. The planners know this but they also know the public doesn't.

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        • publicwondering@mastodon.me.ukP publicwondering@mastodon.me.uk

          @gerrymcgovern @minentromaxinfo I start to wonder if these delusional horror shows are touted to make us responsible types fret and distract us from some other, more realistic, evil?

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          @publicwondering @gerrymcgovern "Flood the zone with shit." - Moloch Bannon. I have to think some significant portion of those involved at a high level have to understand the economics of Gen AI just don't work. Trump loves anything that distracts from Epstein. Big tech loves the appearance of growth. The money people are still making money. All of the entities at the top of this love the endless distraction this has now turned into. As long as enough of us believe the plate is still spinning, power and money is still being made, and we pay the true costs. No one of any "significance" is in any danger of losing anything.

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          • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

            This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

            The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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            This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

            This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife

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            @gerrymcgovern If this will ever get built, i wonder how this turns out if for example the electricity fails and all the emergency generators (must be hundreds of them) spin up all at once. This is neither eco friendly (most certainly gas powered) nor a silent operation, considering that people live around that area.
            This will so drastically devalue your property and your quality of life if you currently live near this area.
            When they start construction, you better move far away while you can.

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            • boomlandjenkins@mastodon.socialB boomlandjenkins@mastodon.social

              @gerrymcgovern And people were concerned about Bitcoin power usage.

              Now we're mainstreaming something so much worse. Bad for people, bad for animals, bad for the planet. Good for CEOs.

              I don't care what medical benefits may come from AI. It's simply not worth it.

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              @BoomlandJenkins @gerrymcgovern good for ceo's for as long as they can keep accountability at bay?

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              • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife

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                @gerrymcgovern hmm, dropping atom bombs would be a solution when the data center is finished.

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                • brokar@mastodon.socialB brokar@mastodon.social

                  @gerrymcgovern If this will ever get built, i wonder how this turns out if for example the electricity fails and all the emergency generators (must be hundreds of them) spin up all at once. This is neither eco friendly (most certainly gas powered) nor a silent operation, considering that people live around that area.
                  This will so drastically devalue your property and your quality of life if you currently live near this area.
                  When they start construction, you better move far away while you can.

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                  @Brokar @gerrymcgovern they run the data center directly off the emergency generators. No electricity hookup needed.

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                    As atom bombs vary in explodieness, I assume that means the smallest, weakest atom bomb ever exploded. Which is still terrible. The 50-something terajoule "Little Boy" was what devastated Hiroshima. So 23 Hiroshimas, is what they're talking about. At a "16 gigawatt thermal load" that means 57.6 terajoules per hour. Multiply that by 24, divide by 23, comes pretty close to 23 60-terajoule bombs every day.

                    For scale, it would take that data center 3,600 hours to give off as much heat as the largest nuclear bomb ever exploded, Tsar Bomba. Which is about 5 months. TSAR BOMBA EVERY 5 MONTHS IS STILL PRETTY BAD
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                    @cy how many hurricanes?
                    1 hurricane = 600TW. So it's 0.00003 hurricanes.

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                    • shivviness@beige.partyS shivviness@beige.party

                      @gerrymcgovern

                      We know that when inevitably this monstrosity datacentre's energy and water needs encroach on local people's needs that our ruling class will simply allow it to happen and sod the human cost.

                      And all because some oligarch somewhere wants to cut his wage bill.

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                      @Shivviness @gerrymcgovern
                      Massive Ontario warehouse set on fire by alleged arsonist to be demolished
                      https://nypost.com/2026/05/11/us-news/massive-ontario-warehouse-set-on-fire-by-alleged-arsonist-to-be-demolished/

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                      • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                        This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                        The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                        @gerrymcgovern Who is greenlighting these monsters?

                        Or more appropriately, who is being paid to permit them?

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                        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                          This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                          The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                          @gerrymcgovern I don't want AI because this was obvious. What is less obvious, is why anyone else does. AI should be a few research projects at this point. Will the AI Winter be this year or next? Do we have another year?

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                            @gerrymcgovern I don't want AI because this was obvious. What is less obvious, is why anyone else does. AI should be a few research projects at this point. Will the AI Winter be this year or next? Do we have another year?

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                            @woo it can't come soon enough. AI feels like a death dance in the final days of a Growth Death Cult.

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                            • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                              @gerrymcgovern hmm, dropping atom bombs would be a solution when the data center is finished.

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                              @assimilateborg @gerrymcgovern Yeah, one to demolish the data center one time seems like a much better outcome than 23 every day...

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                              • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                                @gerrymcgovern hmm, dropping atom bombs would be a solution when the data center is finished.

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                                @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg It'd probably be more effective to drop them on the mansions of the rich people who keep doing shit like this. You know, get to the root of the problem.
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                                • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                                  This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                                  The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                                  @gerrymcgovern

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                                  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                                    This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                                    The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                                    This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

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                                    @gerrymcgovern it's not so much the stupidity... actually it's exactly the stupidity .

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                                    • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com
                                      @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg It'd probably be more effective to drop them on the mansions of the rich people who keep doing shit like this. You know, get to the root of the problem.
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                                      @tk @gerrymcgovern @assimilateborg Unfortunately, some luxury bunkers are built with tech that's being kept from the masses, for this very reason.

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                                      • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                                        @Brokar @gerrymcgovern they run the data center directly off the emergency generators. No electricity hookup needed.

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                                        Oh that's so much better, thank goodness. 😱
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                                        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                                          This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified

                                          The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.

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                                          This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife

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                                          @gerrymcgovern
                                          How can it be 9gw electricity, but 16gw thermal load?
                                          9gw would require like 6 medium size nuclear power plants, not a gas power plant.
                                          Crazy numbers.

                                          Ai is the holy grail, but at this cost and no idea if it's even going anywhere. It's like the train has started, everybody is burning fuel to go as far as possible, but is the train even pointed at the right direction?

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