This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
@gerrymcgovern
This is just one (planned) datacenter of many already existing and even more planned.
To me: All those would only make sense in a dystopian scenario like matrix, skynet or whatever similar... then nonfictional.
None of such scenarios would be good for humans anywhere, not to mention the environment.So who is promoting such projects for what purpose really anyway?
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@gerrymcgovern And people were concerned about Bitcoin power usage.
Now we're mainstreaming something so much worse. Bad for people, bad for animals, bad for the planet. Good for CEOs.
I don't care what medical benefits may come from AI. It's simply not worth it.
@BoomlandJenkins @gerrymcgovern LLMs, as most people mean by AI can NEVER prove worthwhile. It's a massive chimera. Whatever field it's in. But ML (machine learning), especially in the form (NON-LLM) that it has been around for some while, is viable. Even POSSIBLY, with a lot more work, we might get worthwhile LLM usage in the health sphere. But how about getting each person on the earth access to clean water and sanitation first, WHICH WE KNOW HOW TO DO.
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@gerrymcgovern Yikes! Even if this project works as intended, it won't "help the United States win the global AI race". It might help some billionaire get ahead, though.
@publicwondering @gerrymcgovern
That sentence caught me too. The "global ai race" isn't real because ai isn't real, you idiots. You can't evolve horses into motors (thanks Cory).
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@gerrymcgovern
This is just one (planned) datacenter of many already existing and even more planned.
To me: All those would only make sense in a dystopian scenario like matrix, skynet or whatever similar... then nonfictional.
None of such scenarios would be good for humans anywhere, not to mention the environment.So who is promoting such projects for what purpose really anyway?
@grootinside @gerrymcgovern Seems to be a blend of grift and cult intermixing in ways that are utterly absurd.
Think pyramids and other death cult architecture. It demonstrates a level of unwell that benefits the grifters financially but is also tied to genuine beliefs of various folks who are facilitating these.
In real time it feels so baffling but it is a "squirrel king*" where a number of dysfunctional interests align in deadly ways.
*tails tangled up, unable to be separated
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
@gerrymcgovern On the bright side no chance even a quarter of this actually gets built. These things take forever to actually build, install the GPUs, and start "delivering" compute. The resources don't exist to build this, by the time anyone figures that out Kevin O'Leary will have moved on to another grift, richer than ever, and this will end up one massive scar on the face of Utah - But no chance it ever actually becomes what they are claiming it will.
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@gerrymcgovern On the bright side no chance even a quarter of this actually gets built. These things take forever to actually build, install the GPUs, and start "delivering" compute. The resources don't exist to build this, by the time anyone figures that out Kevin O'Leary will have moved on to another grift, richer than ever, and this will end up one massive scar on the face of Utah - But no chance it ever actually becomes what they are claiming it will.
@minentromaxinfo yeah sounds like a good analysis. So much grifting going on, on so many levels.
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@minentromaxinfo yeah sounds like a good analysis. So much grifting going on, on so many levels.
@gerrymcgovern Don't get me wrong this is still horrifying but I have no fears this will actually get built. So far there are gigawatts of compute "announced" and very little actually running and being used by the industry, and none of it is actually making any money. Even the supporters of evil capitalist grifters have to catch on at some point and realize there's no money to be made unless you're on top of the pyramid.
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
@gerrymcgovern I could cry when I see the accelerating #climateCrisis and more and more #drinkwater shortages while the US are on a race to destroy the world.
In Germany, they just stopped the plans of an US company building a big data center, because of the planned gas energy "support". May such protests grow globally!
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
Oh Lord, this thing. The joke in all this is that there may not be the power or the water for it. That much energy is going to require a lot more water to be dissipated, and that means regional evaporation rates are going to go up, which might cause some unexpected forms of weather. I would not trust their water usage claims more than I would trust their employment claims, and the fact the city Council steamrolled the residents says corruption and money
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@gerrymcgovern I could cry when I see the accelerating #climateCrisis and more and more #drinkwater shortages while the US are on a race to destroy the world.
In Germany, they just stopped the plans of an US company building a big data center, because of the planned gas energy "support". May such protests grow globally!
@NatureMC @gerrymcgovern
They are demons trying to destroy the world. Maxwell’s Demon that the brilliant physicist James Clerk Maxwell posited, only there are a whole bunch of them & they are all colluding for power, & competing for dominance all against us and the whole planet, and as I explain in my recent posts, violating intentionally SpaceTime. -
@gerrymcgovern I could cry when I see the accelerating #climateCrisis and more and more #drinkwater shortages while the US are on a race to destroy the world.
In Germany, they just stopped the plans of an US company building a big data center, because of the planned gas energy "support". May such protests grow globally!
@NatureMC it's a type of criminal death cult. The USA is a full-on mafia state. And the rest of the world leadership? Accomplices, participants.
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
We know that when inevitably this monstrosity datacentre's energy and water needs encroach on local people's needs that our ruling class will simply allow it to happen and sod the human cost.
And all because some oligarch somewhere wants to cut his wage bill.
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
Remember back in 2012 when everyone with half a braincell was screaming about the Utah "Total Information Awareness" data center? And the other 90% of the population was getting reassured by their corporate masters, "Those conspiracy theorists sure are crazy, aren't they?"
Good times.
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
As atom bombs vary in explodieness, I assume that means the smallest, weakest atom bomb ever exploded. Which is still terrible. The 50-something terajoule "Little Boy" was what devastated Hiroshima. So 23 Hiroshimas, is what they're talking about. At a "16 gigawatt thermal load" that means 57.6 terajoules per hour. Multiply that by 24, divide by 23, comes pretty close to 23 60-terajoule bombs every day.
For scale, it would take that data center 3,600 hours to give off as much heat as the largest nuclear bomb ever exploded, Tsar Bomba. Which is about 5 months. TSAR BOMBA EVERY 5 MONTHS IS STILL PRETTY BAD -
@minentromaxinfo yeah sounds like a good analysis. So much grifting going on, on so many levels.
@gerrymcgovern @minentromaxinfo I start to wonder if these delusional horror shows are touted to make us responsible types fret and distract us from some other, more realistic, evil?
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Oh Lord, this thing. The joke in all this is that there may not be the power or the water for it. That much energy is going to require a lot more water to be dissipated, and that means regional evaporation rates are going to go up, which might cause some unexpected forms of weather. I would not trust their water usage claims more than I would trust their employment claims, and the fact the city Council steamrolled the residents says corruption and money
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @gerrymcgovern
When you suck that much water out of the ground, it virtually always impacts the surrounding aquifers and surface streams. The planners know this but they also know the public doesn't.
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@gerrymcgovern @minentromaxinfo I start to wonder if these delusional horror shows are touted to make us responsible types fret and distract us from some other, more realistic, evil?
@publicwondering @gerrymcgovern "Flood the zone with shit." - Moloch Bannon. I have to think some significant portion of those involved at a high level have to understand the economics of Gen AI just don't work. Trump loves anything that distracts from Epstein. Big tech loves the appearance of growth. The money people are still making money. All of the entities at the top of this love the endless distraction this has now turned into. As long as enough of us believe the plate is still spinning, power and money is still being made, and we pay the true costs. No one of any "significance" is in any danger of losing anything.
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This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
The scale sounds almost unreal. The proposed campus reportedly spans around 40,000 acres in Box Elder County, Utah, an area larger than many major cities.
This AI data center will be bigger than 2,000 Walmarts and dump '23 atom bombs worth of energy' into the environment every day — and locals are terrified
This project could physically alter the landscape for humans and wildlife
Yahoo News (www.yahoo.com)
@gerrymcgovern If this will ever get built, i wonder how this turns out if for example the electricity fails and all the emergency generators (must be hundreds of them) spin up all at once. This is neither eco friendly (most certainly gas powered) nor a silent operation, considering that people live around that area.
This will so drastically devalue your property and your quality of life if you currently live near this area.
When they start construction, you better move far away while you can. -
@gerrymcgovern And people were concerned about Bitcoin power usage.
Now we're mainstreaming something so much worse. Bad for people, bad for animals, bad for the planet. Good for CEOs.
I don't care what medical benefits may come from AI. It's simply not worth it.
@BoomlandJenkins @gerrymcgovern good for ceo's for as long as they can keep accountability at bay?
