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"We use debian, that should be age verification enough"

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  • mewsleah@meow.socialM mewsleah@meow.social

    @mirabilos @kami_kadse @eris2cats @silvermoon82 pdksh.exe

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    @mewsleah 😆 @mirabilos @eris2cats @silvermoon82

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    • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

      @silvermoon82 @mewsleah @eris2cats @kami_kadse pdksh has been superceded by mksh, in case you didn’t notice 😉

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      @silvermoon82 @eris2cats @kami_kadse @mewsleah there’s even multiple different ways to get an mksh.exe if you’re so inclined:

      • OS/2 is natively supported, build it with EMX/kLibc or get the binaries from komh
        • note komh adds the -T build option which makes it (permissively) use CRLF line endings, but you can also leave it out and run with LF line endings, and that’s the mode upstream supports
      • there’s a port of mksh R39 (old) to native WinAPI, which is usable if you must, but really only if you must
        • uses shm for fork emulation, which likely has security implications, don’t run elevated
      • for NT, if you have Interix/SFU/SUA, you can build current (R59c or (preferably) CVS HEAD aka just before R60) mksh there and add the .exe suffix so it can be called from Win32 programs; this works very very well
      • for Windows, otherwise you can build one with Cygwin/MSYS2, AT&T UWIN, PW32, and probably other frameworks like this
        • use if you must
        • in that case prefer Cygwin/MSYS2 if that can match your environment, they work very well
        • UWIN mostly works
        • PW32 does not really work well
        • likely works worse on DOS-based Windows than on NT
      • if you have real WSL, you probably can link/copy mksh to mksh.exe like with Interix; this will likely work well
      • if you have WSL2, you have a badly done Linux VM with minor integration, and renaming is cosmetic *shrug* it’ll work no problem
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      • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

        @silvermoon82 @eris2cats @kami_kadse @mewsleah there’s even multiple different ways to get an mksh.exe if you’re so inclined:

        • OS/2 is natively supported, build it with EMX/kLibc or get the binaries from komh
          • note komh adds the -T build option which makes it (permissively) use CRLF line endings, but you can also leave it out and run with LF line endings, and that’s the mode upstream supports
        • there’s a port of mksh R39 (old) to native WinAPI, which is usable if you must, but really only if you must
          • uses shm for fork emulation, which likely has security implications, don’t run elevated
        • for NT, if you have Interix/SFU/SUA, you can build current (R59c or (preferably) CVS HEAD aka just before R60) mksh there and add the .exe suffix so it can be called from Win32 programs; this works very very well
        • for Windows, otherwise you can build one with Cygwin/MSYS2, AT&T UWIN, PW32, and probably other frameworks like this
          • use if you must
          • in that case prefer Cygwin/MSYS2 if that can match your environment, they work very well
          • UWIN mostly works
          • PW32 does not really work well
          • likely works worse on DOS-based Windows than on NT
        • if you have real WSL, you probably can link/copy mksh to mksh.exe like with Interix; this will likely work well
        • if you have WSL2, you have a badly done Linux VM with minor integration, and renaming is cosmetic *shrug* it’ll work no problem
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        @silvermoon82 @kami_kadse @mewsleah @eris2cats oh, and, while pdksh’s last release was in 1999 (with NetBSD and OpenBSD doing minor cleanups after, for their OSes only), mksh is 22 this year and not subject to age checks 😼

        Your Android device also comes with /system/bin/mksh (may be called /system/bin/sh depending on vendor/version), in contrast to the old Android sh it has tab completion. And so much more, in only a few dozen KiB more executable. Enjoy.

        And, best of all, it’s AIn’t (no planet-burning slop, ever).

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        • eris2cats@chaos.socialE eris2cats@chaos.social

          "We use debian, that should be age verification enough"

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          @eris2cats Might qualify for the Pension with that.

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          • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

            @silvermoon82 @kami_kadse @mewsleah @eris2cats oh, and, while pdksh’s last release was in 1999 (with NetBSD and OpenBSD doing minor cleanups after, for their OSes only), mksh is 22 this year and not subject to age checks 😼

            Your Android device also comes with /system/bin/mksh (may be called /system/bin/sh depending on vendor/version), in contrast to the old Android sh it has tab completion. And so much more, in only a few dozen KiB more executable. Enjoy.

            And, best of all, it’s AIn’t (no planet-burning slop, ever).

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            @mirabilos please untag me now, i am begging you

            @silvermoon82 @kami_kadse @eris2cats

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            • auser@mastodon.socialA auser@mastodon.social

              @eris2cats We used to use Debian, that should be age verification enough.

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              @auser @eris2cats my first linux was Suse Linux. '96 I think. From Amiga. I escaped Windows and MacOS for all my (personal) computer life !!

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              • h3artbl33d@exquisite.socialH h3artbl33d@exquisite.social

                @eris2cats

                #OpenBSD here - my daily driver for decades.

                Am I a dinosaur now?

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                #77

                @h3artbl33d @eris2cats old Puffy

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                • mischa@exquisite.socialM mischa@exquisite.social

                  @h3artbl33d @eris2cats old Puffy

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                  #78

                  @mischa @eris2cats

                  You calling me Puffy? I am calling HR right the F now

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                  • h3artbl33d@exquisite.socialH h3artbl33d@exquisite.social

                    @mischa @eris2cats

                    You calling me Puffy? I am calling HR right the F now

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                    #79

                    @h3artbl33d @eris2cats not calling you Puffy. I am calling you old Puffy!

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                    • mischa@exquisite.socialM mischa@exquisite.social

                      @h3artbl33d @eris2cats not calling you Puffy. I am calling you old Puffy!

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                      #80

                      @mischa @eris2cats

                      Good point

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                      • mischa@exquisite.socialM mischa@exquisite.social

                        @h3artbl33d @eris2cats not calling you Puffy. I am calling you old Puffy!

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                        #81

                        @mischa @h3artbl33d @eris2cats If it’s not old, it’s not gold

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                        • andersgo@oslo.townA andersgo@oslo.town

                          @mischa @h3artbl33d @eris2cats If it’s not old, it’s not gold

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                          @andersgo @mischa @eris2cats

                          Facts.

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                          • mischa@exquisite.socialM mischa@exquisite.social

                            @h3artbl33d @eris2cats not calling you Puffy. I am calling you old Puffy!

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                            @mischa @h3artbl33d  ´Could have been worse… Could have been Fluffy!

                            Cc: @eris2cats

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                            • eris2cats@chaos.socialE eris2cats@chaos.social

                              "We use debian, that should be age verification enough"

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                              @eris2cats True enough, but you didn't have to say it so harshly. Ouch!

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                              • cristianrasch@fosstodon.orgC cristianrasch@fosstodon.org

                                @eris2cats True enough, but you didn't have to say it so harshly. Ouch!

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                                #85

                                @cristianrasch I live to serve

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                                • eris2cats@chaos.socialE eris2cats@chaos.social

                                  "We use debian, that should be age verification enough"

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                                  @eris2cats@chaos.social

                                  but i think i installed it 1st before i was 18

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                                  • eris2cats@chaos.socialE eris2cats@chaos.social

                                    "We use debian, that should be age verification enough"

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                                    @eris2cats my 13 years old boy have 1 laptop with debian and 1 gaming computer, he compile the kernel for NVIDIA graphic card alone 👍

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