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  • mmcknett@hachyderm.ioM mmcknett@hachyderm.io

    @selzero “gemini” means “twins”

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    @mmcknett @selzero

    there's janus, the two faced god. and apparently google is doing something with gemini codenamed janus

    gemini is greek and janus is roman but they are not cognates of each other

    however gemini in astrology does have to do with a "two faced" personality

    i don't believe any of that shit, i'm just explaining that what selzero is saying is not inaccurate

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    • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

      Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

      The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

      His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

      Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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      @selzero the most cynical is Palantir, they eye of Sauron who sees it all. I mean, the creators should be named George Orwell or smth

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      • thevhswizard@retro.pizzaT thevhswizard@retro.pizza

        @farah @selzero

        If nothing else, it's proof that the world we live in is NOT a simulation created by Hideo Kojima, because if he made it the names would be waaaaay more on-point. OpenAI would be created by Terminus J. Replacerman or some shit like that.

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        @thevhswizard @farah @selzero
        > If nothing else, it's proof that the world
        > we live in is NOT a simulation created by
        > Hideo Kojima, because if he made it the
        > names would be waaaaay more on-point.

        https://www.sauron.systems/
        https://www.palantir.com/

        ...You were saying?

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        • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

          Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

          The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

          His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

          Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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          @selzero

          As a Gemini ourselves, we do not clAIm them. 😛

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @mmcknett @selzero

            there's janus, the two faced god. and apparently google is doing something with gemini codenamed janus

            gemini is greek and janus is roman but they are not cognates of each other

            however gemini in astrology does have to do with a "two faced" personality

            i don't believe any of that shit, i'm just explaining that what selzero is saying is not inaccurate

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            @benroyce @selzero I thought Janus might have been the interpretation, though my only source for connecting “two-faced” as in duplicitous with the two-faced Roman god (one looking into the past and the other looking into the future) is the movie Goldeneye, so I have treated it with skepticism. 😅 Janus is the god of doorways, physically, and thus metaphorically of transitions/beginnings/endings.

            “Gemini” is Latin and, If you believe wiktionary, descends from proto-italic, no mention of Greek. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/geminus — the words geminus and ianus aren’t really related.

            I didn’t know there was a canonical astrological association with gemini ♊️ as being duplicitous, since I don’t follow astrology. Seems kind of rude though. 😂

            The only inaccurate thing selzero said is what “gemini” means, so I’m not trying to start an argument about the *point* being made.

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            • mmcknett@hachyderm.ioM mmcknett@hachyderm.io

              @benroyce @selzero I thought Janus might have been the interpretation, though my only source for connecting “two-faced” as in duplicitous with the two-faced Roman god (one looking into the past and the other looking into the future) is the movie Goldeneye, so I have treated it with skepticism. 😅 Janus is the god of doorways, physically, and thus metaphorically of transitions/beginnings/endings.

              “Gemini” is Latin and, If you believe wiktionary, descends from proto-italic, no mention of Greek. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/geminus — the words geminus and ianus aren’t really related.

              I didn’t know there was a canonical astrological association with gemini ♊️ as being duplicitous, since I don’t follow astrology. Seems kind of rude though. 😂

              The only inaccurate thing selzero said is what “gemini” means, so I’m not trying to start an argument about the *point* being made.

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              @mmcknett @selzero

              well said, and no argument intended, just good conversation 🍻

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              • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                @selzero also there's copilot which most definitely could not be trusted to land a plane safely in the event of the pilot's sudden incapacitation

                illuminati confirmed

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                • farah@beige.partyF farah@beige.party

                  @selzero Don’t look too much into it. I bet those companies never did. If they had the power of introspection, we wouldn’t have them in the first place.

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                  @farah @selzero Most of them do not possess that capacity.

                  Then again, if they see anything having to do with ethics or philosophy on your transcripts when they run a background check on you, they'll drop you like a hot potato.

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                  • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                    Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                    The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                    His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                    Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                    @selzero These assholes make us cyborgs look bad.

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                    • epistomai@mastodon.socialE epistomai@mastodon.social

                      @selzero the most cynical is Palantir, they eye of Sauron who sees it all. I mean, the creators should be named George Orwell or smth

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                      @epistomai @selzero The Palantíri are seeing stones that were originally a gift from the elves and installed all over the kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor as communication devices. Sauron got his hands on one of them after taking Minas Ithil/Minas Morgul. He then used it to spy on others, and drive Denethor insane. But the Palantír is not the Eye of Sauron.

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                      • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                        Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                        The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                        His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                        Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                        @selzero In German, "Altmann" means "old man".

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                        • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                          @selzero also there's copilot which most definitely could not be trusted to land a plane safely in the event of the pilot's sudden incapacitation

                          illuminati confirmed

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                          @renardboy @selzero automation in aviation has caused several hundred deaths - misuse of automation and automation dependency, that is
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESJH1NLMLs

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                          • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                            Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                            The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                            His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                            Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                            @selzero Wait! Is there no media centered around an emo, “I’m 13 and this is deep” Sam Alt-man account sharing deep truths with the sheepish masses? Where are the image galleries and parody blog posts? Did we all just get too busy to internet?

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                            • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                              @selzero Cortana is named after a character in a video game series that's the spiritual successor to one primarily concerned with AIs going psychotic, killing every human under their control, and betraying all of humanity to aliens.

                              And then there's Palantir, named after the magical devices that were used to influence and corrupt the mind and intentions of the supreme deity's highest representative in the mortal realm.

                              It used to be a joke for a company to be called "Evil Inc."

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                              @StarkRG @selzero And don't forget Anduril, the arms manufacturer who named themselves after a sword that means "flame of the west", Tolkien at his most openly racist.

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                              • verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV verenarupp@social.vivaldi.net

                                @epistomai @selzero The Palantíri are seeing stones that were originally a gift from the elves and installed all over the kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor as communication devices. Sauron got his hands on one of them after taking Minas Ithil/Minas Morgul. He then used it to spy on others, and drive Denethor insane. But the Palantír is not the Eye of Sauron.

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                                @VerenaRupp @selzero I didn't say otherwise. George Orwell's 1984 has 'an eye who watches all the time and everything', and that's what I meant. Two fictional novels who seem like the same intended guideline for the AI creator.

                                By the way, yesterday I watched Colossus (1970s) and the AI also have an Orwellian/Sauron surveillance at all times approach. Same as The Prisoner series. Use of tech or any magical device to spy and control

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                                • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                                  Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                                  The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                                  His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                                  Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                                  @selzero

                                  #technazi bros are all in the sci-fi. So many wonders there, so many strong rulers. All they need to implement those worlds but without that pesky unhappy endings authors meant.

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                                  • selzero@syzito.xyzS selzero@syzito.xyz

                                    Not sure who wrote this, but I love it.

                                    The creator of ChatGPT is named "Altman," as in "alternative to human" and he leads OpenAl, which is completely closed.

                                    His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning "human-centered" is led by "Amodei," as in "loves gods".

                                    Then there's "Gemini," meaning "two-faced," from a company that said that it will do no evil.

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                                    @selzero a good read in the similar vein https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/my-antichrist-lecture

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                                    • mmcknett@hachyderm.ioM mmcknett@hachyderm.io

                                      @benroyce @selzero I thought Janus might have been the interpretation, though my only source for connecting “two-faced” as in duplicitous with the two-faced Roman god (one looking into the past and the other looking into the future) is the movie Goldeneye, so I have treated it with skepticism. 😅 Janus is the god of doorways, physically, and thus metaphorically of transitions/beginnings/endings.

                                      “Gemini” is Latin and, If you believe wiktionary, descends from proto-italic, no mention of Greek. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/geminus — the words geminus and ianus aren’t really related.

                                      I didn’t know there was a canonical astrological association with gemini ♊️ as being duplicitous, since I don’t follow astrology. Seems kind of rude though. 😂

                                      The only inaccurate thing selzero said is what “gemini” means, so I’m not trying to start an argument about the *point* being made.

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                                      @mmcknett @benroyce @selzero

                                      "Gemini" is a romanisation of "Δίδυμοι", (Didymoi) meaning "twins".
                                      For the astrological sign, specifically Castor and Pollux.

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                                      • alexshendi@rollenspiel.socialA alexshendi@rollenspiel.social

                                        @mmcknett @benroyce @selzero

                                        "Gemini" is a romanisation of "Δίδυμοι", (Didymoi) meaning "twins".
                                        For the astrological sign, specifically Castor and Pollux.

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                                        @alexshendi @benroyce @selzero I’m having trouble finding sources indicating that Δίδυμοι became Gemini. How’d you find that?

                                        Interestingly, I did find a random page that gives Castor’s & Pollux’s Greek names (Καστωρ and Πολυδεύκης), though the Greeks seem to have referred to them as Διόσκουροι (Zeus’s boys). https://greekerthanthegreeks.com/the-ancient-greek-myth-around-the-zodiac-sign-of-gemini/

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                                        • mmcknett@hachyderm.ioM mmcknett@hachyderm.io

                                          @alexshendi @benroyce @selzero I’m having trouble finding sources indicating that Δίδυμοι became Gemini. How’d you find that?

                                          Interestingly, I did find a random page that gives Castor’s & Pollux’s Greek names (Καστωρ and Πολυδεύκης), though the Greeks seem to have referred to them as Διόσκουροι (Zeus’s boys). https://greekerthanthegreeks.com/the-ancient-greek-myth-around-the-zodiac-sign-of-gemini/

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                                          @mmcknett @alexshendi @selzero

                                          perhaps it's a latin original term, for the greek twins

                                          i'm just guessing

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