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A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

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  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

    A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

    This is being done rapidly by people with unclear motivations and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

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    Summary Add a BirthDate field to the user account interface. For non-homed users, the value is stored...

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    @wwahammy these are definitely not unknown people. I guarantee you every single fucking one of them is a Meta or Google employee.

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    • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

      @wwahammy these are definitely not unknown people. I guarantee you every single fucking one of them is a Meta or Google employee.

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      @rootwyrm as far as I know, I don't think they are.

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      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

        @rootwyrm as far as I know, I don't think they are.

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        @wwahammy there's no fucking way that these commits are not directly linked to Meta and their ilk. Absolutely none at all. These are the only companies besides IBM with the staff, and the only ones with the vested interest, as well as a LONG history of hiding, minimizing, or straight up lying about their involvement in things.
        If the IPs aren't from Meta's ASN, they're employees using their home connection again, something the company has ordered them to do for breaking the law for example.

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        • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

          @wwahammy there's no fucking way that these commits are not directly linked to Meta and their ilk. Absolutely none at all. These are the only companies besides IBM with the staff, and the only ones with the vested interest, as well as a LONG history of hiding, minimizing, or straight up lying about their involvement in things.
          If the IPs aren't from Meta's ASN, they're employees using their home connection again, something the company has ordered them to do for breaking the law for example.

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          @rootwyrm sadly, I think it's mostly people who genuinely believe they're doing the right thing. They're 100% wrong.

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          • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

            @ShadSterling @artemis @smn while understandable, that's not a good solution. I don't think we should trade one freedom away for another.

            The whole thing needs to be stopped. Period. No compromise, no surrender.

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            @wwahammy @artemis @smn it does, but I don’t think that license change is meant to be a whole solution, and I’m not sure what better thing those orgs could do.

            Until it is stopped, maybe it would be better if the ones not located in California just ignored it; it’s not like they can impose California law on the entire world

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            • frumble@chaos.socialF frumble@chaos.social

              @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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              @frumble @artemis @smn @wwahammy Ok. Now I'm actually concerned of USA. Are you people there OK? Like slowly your country moves to China like spy land. 😞

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              • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

                @frumble @artemis @smn @wwahammy Ok. Now I'm actually concerned of USA. Are you people there OK? Like slowly your country moves to China like spy land. 😞

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                @grayrattus @frumble @artemis @smn no, we're fucking not. But it doesn't help that big companies are pushing these policies either.

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                • crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.netC crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.net

                  "It's not going to be repealed," ok, but like, can we? Can we build a plan to get this reversed? I'm about to complain on the daily to my state reps, because I sure as hell didn't ask them to pass it, and they sure as hell didn't let me know this was even in the works.

                  If I got backing, I'd even do the work of getting a prop going to repeal this, I'm not even joking. Or should some other options be explored first? Is anyone else taking these steps? Can anyone hear me? Where is the pushback against this?

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                  @crypticrainfall @wwahammy @artemis You can certainly attempt it but I don't have high hopes for a campaign to repeal a bill that passed unanimously and would be opposed by the likes of facebook. It's hard to imagine how to build the political capital to do that.

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                  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                    A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                    This is being done rapidly by people with unclear motivations and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

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                    user: Add BirthDate with polkit-gated GetBirthDate and SetBirthDate methods (!176) · Merge requests · accountsservice / accountsservice · GitLab

                    Summary Add a BirthDate field to the user account interface. For non-homed users, the value is stored...

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                    @wwahammy

                    Edit: I just saw your display name 😅 Hi Eric 👋

                    I think you did a great job of highlighting the problems posed by that PR.

                    "I do not think every application, that can be written by literally anyone in the world should know and be able to share which of their users are under 18. That is a recipe for some of the worst possible human beings to know who to target for harm and abuse of all kinds.
                    Like has anyone run this by folks who work with kids in the digital safety space? How about kids themselves? How about people who aren't in the US. It seems like we've got the mostly male, middle-aged white American and maybe European software engineer viewpoints down pat. Those are not the only users of desktop Linux and if we're gonna change the relationship between those users (and potential users) and desktop Linux, then maybe they should be involved in whatever happens."

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      @wwahammy

                      Edit: I just saw your display name 😅 Hi Eric 👋

                      I think you did a great job of highlighting the problems posed by that PR.

                      "I do not think every application, that can be written by literally anyone in the world should know and be able to share which of their users are under 18. That is a recipe for some of the worst possible human beings to know who to target for harm and abuse of all kinds.
                      Like has anyone run this by folks who work with kids in the digital safety space? How about kids themselves? How about people who aren't in the US. It seems like we've got the mostly male, middle-aged white American and maybe European software engineer viewpoints down pat. Those are not the only users of desktop Linux and if we're gonna change the relationship between those users (and potential users) and desktop Linux, then maybe they should be involved in whatever happens."

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                      @alice sometimes I am gud at writing 🙂

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                      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                        @grayrattus @frumble @artemis @smn no, we're fucking not. But it doesn't help that big companies are pushing these policies either.

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                        @wwahammy @frumble @artemis @smn
                        Why even implementing such feature? XD I'm really lost wtf.

                        > and helps support age verification requirements from recent legislation.

                        Why should we care about any legislation. It's open source for fucks sake. I should be able to can run it on my dildo if I wanted.

                        Even now I can drop this stupid commit and government could suck my dick. What if I run RToS on Arduino? Do I still need to add age flag XDD WTF.

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                        • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

                          @wwahammy @frumble @artemis @smn
                          Why even implementing such feature? XD I'm really lost wtf.

                          > and helps support age verification requirements from recent legislation.

                          Why should we care about any legislation. It's open source for fucks sake. I should be able to can run it on my dildo if I wanted.

                          Even now I can drop this stupid commit and government could suck my dick. What if I run RToS on Arduino? Do I still need to add age flag XDD WTF.

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                          @grayrattus @frumble @artemis @smn make sure the dildo asks the users birthday first 🙂

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                          • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                            A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                            This is being done rapidly by people with unclear motivations and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

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                            user: Add BirthDate with polkit-gated GetBirthDate and SetBirthDate methods (!176) · Merge requests · accountsservice / accountsservice · GitLab

                            Summary Add a BirthDate field to the user account interface. For non-homed users, the value is stored...

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                            @wwahammy Grrrr

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                            • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                              @crypticrainfall @wwahammy @artemis You can certainly attempt it but I don't have high hopes for a campaign to repeal a bill that passed unanimously and would be opposed by the likes of facebook. It's hard to imagine how to build the political capital to do that.

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                              duh it's going to be hard. why are we giving up before trying? sometimes difficult things are achieved, and it's because people had a plan of action and didn't stop trying to push even when it looked bleak. I would have been trying something way earlier if I knew this was on the books. if you don't want to do anything, that's fine, personal choice and all. but lots of people are really mad. so what is our plan, what can we do for those of us ready to fight?

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                              • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                @alice sometimes I am gud at writing 🙂

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                                @wwahammy lol, when I wrote that reply, I'd seen your username, but didn't read your display name until after I'd hit post.

                                Anyway, yes, yes you do write gud 😋💖

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                                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                  A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                                  This is being done rapidly by people with unclear motivations and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

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                                  user: Add BirthDate with polkit-gated GetBirthDate and SetBirthDate methods (!176) · Merge requests · accountsservice / accountsservice · GitLab

                                  Summary Add a BirthDate field to the user account interface. For non-homed users, the value is stored...

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                                  @wwahammy But the *heatmap* Eric! Think of the commit heatmap!

                                  (Somehow I feel like /s is required here because *gestures*)

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                                  • crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.netC crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.net

                                    "It's not going to be repealed," ok, but like, can we? Can we build a plan to get this reversed? I'm about to complain on the daily to my state reps, because I sure as hell didn't ask them to pass it, and they sure as hell didn't let me know this was even in the works.

                                    If I got backing, I'd even do the work of getting a prop going to repeal this, I'm not even joking. Or should some other options be explored first? Is anyone else taking these steps? Can anyone hear me? Where is the pushback against this?

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                                    @crypticrainfall Start with the EFF (https://www.eff.org/) and Fight for the Future (https://www.fightforthefuture.org/), I'd say

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                                    • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                                      @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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                                      @artemis @smn @wwahammy This whole OS age thing is beyond stupid. Do these politicians even know what an OS is for? This seems more like an issue to take to app developers like Grindr (which unless they have a pic and look 40 years old, we're not talking. Plenty of children on there). I know for me, who is highly allergic to kids, and very untrusting, verification on those sort of things would be a good thing. But not just so I can login to my Mac and use Logic and Xcode

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                                      • frumble@chaos.socialF frumble@chaos.social

                                        @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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                                        Lobby the fools that inflicted this on you

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                                        • praetor@mstdn.socialP praetor@mstdn.social

                                          @artemis @smn @wwahammy This whole OS age thing is beyond stupid. Do these politicians even know what an OS is for? This seems more like an issue to take to app developers like Grindr (which unless they have a pic and look 40 years old, we're not talking. Plenty of children on there). I know for me, who is highly allergic to kids, and very untrusting, verification on those sort of things would be a good thing. But not just so I can login to my Mac and use Logic and Xcode

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                                          @praetor @artemis @smn @wwahammy meta is the machine behind the curtain. They want an easier way to track people across the Internet to sell ads. For a few million dollars, they'll get it apparently...

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