Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers.
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@selea Prusa, but used. Or Creality, with half the budget set aside for upgrades and replacement parts. Tbh I'd go with the Prusa, since makerspace implies some level of tragedy of the commons.
Yeah I would usually agree with the fact that makerspaces should include tinkering and tragedy - but we who are responsible simple does not have time manage it, since neither of us have a 3D-printer at home
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Do I need to assemble them myself?
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea Prusa, or potentially FLsun S1 Pro. Though for the latter the slicer situation needs to be clarified - at the very least it needs a profile imported into Orca or Prusa slicer.
If you go for a multi color printer, please consider only ones with separate print heads. The single print head ones that change filament are horribly wasteful.
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea habe a look to the Ellego CC. Free Firmware...good price...good hardware.
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@sobek @selea @foxylad FWIW, self assembled makes the price much friendlier. I got a MK4S, had literally 0 3DP knowledge beforehand. Took me two weeknights to complete it, but the instructions were all very clear and it was successful.
And I did it without the motivational gummy bears! They don't ship them to Brazil
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea Depending on skil llevel, used/refurbished machines can be a decent investment - Creality has a simple platform which makes it mildly easier and less expensive to maintain or repair in some instances - it all depends on the individual use case
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea I've been using Creality printers with no issues and perfect results for 6 years. I've just heard about Snapmaker, but I've never owned one of their machines and they're over your budget though they have some innovative ideas.
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea ignore anyone saying Prusa - they aren’t paying attention. Prusa is almost as problematic as Bambu, just with a marketing and open washing.
SOVOL makes a respectable printer, not perfect but tries to do the right thing for open source. SV08 should come close to that range.
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@selea @Natanox The only real complaint I have about Qidi was that when they didn't initially put thermal fuses on hot beds in one of their printers, then later provided them as a fix, someone who hadn't installed the fix yet and burned down his shop as a result posted a warning. They banned him from their official subreddit, which was not awesome behavior, and they really should have used thermal fuses from the beginning.
On the other hand, they have been around for a long time. My Qidi X-Max 3 has been a workhorse. They ship their slicer with support for Linux, and appear to have been respecful of open source licenses as far as I can tell. They give the information for you to have root access on the embedded Linux system running Klipper. I've been able to order consumables or and replacements post-warranty. Their support has actually been helpful and responsive (modulo time zone differences, of course). They have real heated chambers in some printers, and they seem to be the most cost-effective way to get a functional heated chamber for engineering filaments.
So Qidi, along with Sovol, are on my list to consider for my next printer, whenever that is.
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea @carapace i’m a huge fan of #SOVOL lately; they’re actually doing open source #3DPrinters correctly.
I have their SV08, which is a 3D printer hacker’s dream rig: everything on it works well enough, right out of the box, and most everything in the box is compatible with many of the Voron 2.4 modifications out there. https://www.sovol3d.com/products/sovol-sv08-3d-printer
The Sovol Zero is their take on the Voron 0.2 - I haven’t played with one of those but they seem to be well received by the community too. https://www.sovol3d.com/products/sovol-zero-3d-printer
I do however understand that a hackable printer may not be the ideal choice for a #hackerspace: there’s a lot of temptation to modify such a machine, and machine mods in a hackerspace often mean machines that just don’t work anymore, with a bonus side effect of members being angry with one another.
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@selea @Natanox The only real complaint I have about Qidi was that when they didn't initially put thermal fuses on hot beds in one of their printers, then later provided them as a fix, someone who hadn't installed the fix yet and burned down his shop as a result posted a warning. They banned him from their official subreddit, which was not awesome behavior, and they really should have used thermal fuses from the beginning.
On the other hand, they have been around for a long time. My Qidi X-Max 3 has been a workhorse. They ship their slicer with support for Linux, and appear to have been respecful of open source licenses as far as I can tell. They give the information for you to have root access on the embedded Linux system running Klipper. I've been able to order consumables or and replacements post-warranty. Their support has actually been helpful and responsive (modulo time zone differences, of course). They have real heated chambers in some printers, and they seem to be the most cost-effective way to get a functional heated chamber for engineering filaments.
So Qidi, along with Sovol, are on my list to consider for my next printer, whenever that is.
@mcdanlj @selea Looking them up I see quite a lot of people massively displeased with their support though.
I guess it's like with every chinese printer company. Devices usually okay, support questionable, actions anything between okay over confused to vile.
Guess they're a good pick if you want to save some money. A makerspace should be able to help themselves anyway.
Just… be aware the printer should probably be used offline. Chinese surveillance laws are absolute and enforced globally. -
@mcdanlj @selea Looking them up I see quite a lot of people massively displeased with their support though.
I guess it's like with every chinese printer company. Devices usually okay, support questionable, actions anything between okay over confused to vile.
Guess they're a good pick if you want to save some money. A makerspace should be able to help themselves anyway.
Just… be aware the printer should probably be used offline. Chinese surveillance laws are absolute and enforced globally.@Natanox @selea You'll find complaints about support for everywhere. I've seen them for Prusa too. I've found them better than average of Chinese companies for getting support.
I don't think Qidi even have a cloud mode. I don't recall having one to turn off. Using Klipper and being open source with their QidiSlicer variant of PrusaSlicer, you don't have the proprietary binary-only blob that Bambu ship, to try to work around... I don't think it is commensurate.
If you have specific information to the contrary that goes beyond my scope of experience, please share specific details.
(Yes, I've read Josef's Xits about chinese surveillance law. Thus the point that not having a cloud mode might be a specific advantage here.)
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea
The GPL is just the tip of the iceberg—consider the data sent to their home country with your logs, printing via their cloud, and you can look up videos online about their "repairability." And most importantly—are you planning to burn down your building?- YouTube
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@sobek @selea @foxylad FWIW, self assembled makes the price much friendlier. I got a MK4S, had literally 0 3DP knowledge beforehand. Took me two weeknights to complete it, but the instructions were all very clear and it was successful.
And I did it without the motivational gummy bears! They don't ship them to Brazil
@kroltan@functional.cafe@sobek@social.linux.pizza @selea 🤯 No gummies!!!!
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Do I need to assemble them myself?
@selea You can choose assembled or not. Assembled costs more and you miss out on all the fun of building them.
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@kroltan@functional.cafe@sobek@social.linux.pizza @selea 🤯 No gummies!!!!
@foxylad Right! I almost returned it
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea i would recommend a prusa mini but if you can buy a bigger #3dprinting prusa that would be better
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Our makerspace needs new 3D-printers. I was originaly set for #bambulab but with the apparent non respect for #GPL
Which 3D-printer should I look into? Is there any printer that does not require too much tinkering?
Budget, 600 USD/EUR
Should work with Linux, and also stuff like repetier.Boost for reach
@selea 600 USD is closer to 500 EUR in pure value, and with taxes and tariffs that can shift the balance even further. Where are you based, generally speaking?
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@selea 600 USD is closer to 500 EUR in pure value, and with taxes and tariffs that can shift the balance even further. Where are you based, generally speaking?
Sweden here!
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Sweden here!
@selea Near Malmö? I might be thinking about selling my MK4S, with enclosure, and I could drop it off (I’m based in Copenhagen).
