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  • szakib@freeradical.zoneS szakib@freeradical.zone

    Hey Fedi Friends!

    There is this gap between the lowest silver part and the top of the grayish part that shouldn't be there. I can see bearing balls in the lower part, and the top part is a bit conical.

    How do I close this gap?

    I tried mild force: loosening everything and tightening the bolt on top to pull everything down resulted in a snapped bolt. Hammering the loosened stem downwards did nothing.

    #AskFedi #cycling #bike #BikeTooter #maintenance

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    @szakib

    If the steering is generally OK and not loose and juddery, it's possible that all that is missing is a shield/cover for the bearings. Ie everything is adjusted tight, but there was a plastic/rubber cover to keep the crud out. This bit is now missing. It's not a mechanical part, it just keeps the dirt out.

    I've had headsets with this bit, that I've lost somehow.

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      @szakib

      If the steering is generally OK and not loose and juddery, it's possible that all that is missing is a shield/cover for the bearings. Ie everything is adjusted tight, but there was a plastic/rubber cover to keep the crud out. This bit is now missing. It's not a mechanical part, it just keeps the dirt out.

      I've had headsets with this bit, that I've lost somehow.

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      @mikehaber Hey, this is really helpful! I might be in this situation. I honestly have no idea what it looked like earlier, I just noticed the gap after changing the order of the stem + spacers. Nothing is actually loose.

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      • szakib@freeradical.zoneS szakib@freeradical.zone

        @mikehaber Hey, this is really helpful! I might be in this situation. I honestly have no idea what it looked like earlier, I just noticed the gap after changing the order of the stem + spacers. Nothing is actually loose.

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        @szakib

        There is zero chance it went from being adjusted to being like this, without being really loose.

        If you've loosened it, it could be that it's not sitting right.

        If you've just taken the stem off it may be worth taking it off again and visually checking it all looks OK, and there isn't something not sat right.

        It's gonna be something like

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        • mikehaber@social.coopM mikehaber@social.coop

          @szakib

          There is zero chance it went from being adjusted to being like this, without being really loose.

          If you've loosened it, it could be that it's not sitting right.

          If you've just taken the stem off it may be worth taking it off again and visually checking it all looks OK, and there isn't something not sat right.

          It's gonna be something like

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          @mikehaber I will check everything again later when I have time. Thanks for the diagram!

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          • szakib@freeradical.zoneS szakib@freeradical.zone

            @mikehaber I will check everything again later when I have time. Thanks for the diagram!

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            @szakib

            Good luck, there is not a lot going on in headsets, the most complicated bit is the bearings, which may be cartridge, balls in a metal retainer clip, or loose. It should all sit together with zero force.

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            • mikehaber@social.coopM mikehaber@social.coop

              @szakib

              There is zero chance it went from being adjusted to being like this, without being really loose.

              If you've loosened it, it could be that it's not sitting right.

              If you've just taken the stem off it may be worth taking it off again and visually checking it all looks OK, and there isn't something not sat right.

              It's gonna be something like

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              @mikehaber @szakib I agree, and it seems like something I would want to take apart to understand what is not fitting correctly. It looks like the upper bearing races are sitting together properly if I understand the picture. But if it's not loose and the pinch bolts are tight then it's probably OK to ride.

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                @mikehaber @szakib I agree, and it seems like something I would want to take apart to understand what is not fitting correctly. It looks like the upper bearing races are sitting together properly if I understand the picture. But if it's not loose and the pinch bolts are tight then it's probably OK to ride.

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                @pws @mikehaber It is OK to ride, but we are in Finland and there will be further water ingress combined with cold. Even if everything stays in place the way it is now, I still need to seal the hole.

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                • szakib@freeradical.zoneS szakib@freeradical.zone

                  @pws @mikehaber It is OK to ride, but we are in Finland and there will be further water ingress combined with cold. Even if everything stays in place the way it is now, I still need to seal the hole.

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                  @szakib @pws If you don't need it to look great, I'd create a gaffer tape 'skirt' that's stuck to the top race (and folded over to not stick to the bottom race. It should stop most dirt. If you have grease, first make sure there is some on all the metal (edit- the internal metal and the bearings 😃 )

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                    @szakib @pws If you don't need it to look great, I'd create a gaffer tape 'skirt' that's stuck to the top race (and folded over to not stick to the bottom race. It should stop most dirt. If you have grease, first make sure there is some on all the metal (edit- the internal metal and the bearings 😃 )

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                    @mikehaber @pws Yep, that's the plan if it stays like this.

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                    • szakib@freeradical.zoneS szakib@freeradical.zone

                      @mikehaber @pws Yep, that's the plan if it stays like this.

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                      @szakib @mikehaber A bike like that may have been assembled with completely inadequate grease inside the headset for a wet climate so there's yet another reason to take it apart. Even if it was greased it probably needs more now.

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