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Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it?

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

    zrail@hachyderm.ioZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross why do you think he had the plane, Charlie?

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

      cwdolunt@dice.campC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross Don't forget that Epstein had a house in New York City next door to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. Lutnick said there was a "massage room" in there as well.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

        rootwyrm@weird.autosR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross oh, yes, he had multiple locations for raping children. An apartment in Manhattan, an estate in Palm Beach, and a 7800 acre ranch in New Mexico.
        All of which were known to federal AND local authorities with multiple reports of the activities going on at them.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

          vaneshi@bitbang.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross Yes.

          The "Zorro" Ranch, he also had property in Manhattan and various other locations.

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          • zrail@hachyderm.ioZ zrail@hachyderm.io

            @cstross why do you think he had the plane, Charlie?

            cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

              alsweigart@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross If you were rich and had one paedophile factory, why would you ONLY have one?

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                uilebheist@polyglot.cityU This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross Epstein Sex Ranch = ESR?
                This... makes sense.

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                  infoseepage@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @cstross The guy had a bunch of properties where known victims have said his crimes occured. His ranch and two islands seem the best locations for keeping stuff out of the public eye and body disposal. I do think murders occurred in connection with his sex trafficking. Multiple victims have spoken of threats of violence which included talk of others being murdered. The victim statements we have are from people who survived Epstein. We don't have statements from those who didn't.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                    shunra@wandering.shopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cstross for true horror, take a look at jmail.world (which took emails and formatted them as if the reader were Epstein.)

                    I think he outhorrors even your imagination.
                    (A search for "ranch" brings up more than 10K messages. I hope not all of them are *that* one.)

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                      retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cstross People are willing to pay for convenience. Capitalism will always fulfil demand for profit. Morality has nothing to do with business.

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

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                        @cstross
                        Ah, but NetJet likely won't provide the cleaning services that man required...

                        @zrail

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

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                          @cstross (I mean yes of course but I was saying he needed it to travel between his "factories")

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                            kajord@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross I actively try not to read too deeply about this b/c it's so horrifying, but every time I do there are details that I am shocked that I had not heard before.

                            Like the girlfriend that he pulled strings for to get her into Columbia University's dental school, and then left $100 million to her in his will. Seems like kind of a big deal, but I'd never seen her mentioned in the news before.

                            nytimes.com

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                            • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                              @cstross The guy had a bunch of properties where known victims have said his crimes occured. His ranch and two islands seem the best locations for keeping stuff out of the public eye and body disposal. I do think murders occurred in connection with his sex trafficking. Multiple victims have spoken of threats of violence which included talk of others being murdered. The victim statements we have are from people who survived Epstein. We don't have statements from those who didn't.

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                              @cstross Some information on the ranch and what has been alleged by multiple victims to have occurred there.

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                              Allegations of bodies keep coming up in connection with the property. It and the surrounding park lands seem a near ideal location for body disposal. He had close to 10,000 acres at one point between what he owned and leased and some of the adjacent properties are similarly large and are owned by figures named in the Epstein files.

                              Just a moment...

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                              • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                                @cstross Some information on the ranch and what has been alleged by multiple victims to have occurred there.

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                                Zorro Ranch - Wikipedia

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                                (en.wikipedia.org)

                                Allegations of bodies keep coming up in connection with the property. It and the surrounding park lands seem a near ideal location for body disposal. He had close to 10,000 acres at one point between what he owned and leased and some of the adjacent properties are similarly large and are owned by figures named in the Epstein files.

                                Just a moment...

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                                (sourcenm.com)

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                                @cstross There was also a large gun safe that was burgled at the property in 2018. My read of that event is that it seems likely the theft was targeted and done to remove blackmail materials.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                                  cazabon@mindly.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @cstross

                                  Yes, a ranch in New Mexico, the New York townhouse, the infamous island, and a number of other places, I believe.

                                  I haven't read much about the ranch, but the New York house has been documented, somewhat.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

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                                    @cstross @zrail Indeed. In which case the jet was thoroughly bugged and staffed with victims, neither of which could be done if the jet was on a rental.

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                                      angusm@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cstross I think we're about one news cycle away from learning that the fucker had a volcano base with a shark pool.

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                                      • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

                                        @cstross I think we're about one news cycle away from learning that the fucker had a volcano base with a shark pool.

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                                        @angusm @cstross this would imply way too much taste

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

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                                          @cstross Alex Acosta gave h a sweetheart deal and buried the extensive indictment that the FBI had queued up because he was allegedly told that Epstein was a very well-connected intelligence asset and shouldn't be touched.

                                          Acosta was given a cabinet position in Trump's first admin.

                                          Him having multiple horror galleries is not surprising. He was well connected to a class of people who are utterly devoid of what most of consider basic morality.

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