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In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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    @evacide thats amazing in a bad way. Wow. Shutting down E2EE as a feature.

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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      @evacide whatsap is probably next.

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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        @evacide not surprised... 😥

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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          @evacide meta definitely want that dicpics for AI training data 🤗

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          • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

            @evacide The thing is: WhatsApp can be the next in line and people will not migrate from it if it happens.

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            @qgustavor @evacide we will see.

            I could imagine an EU intervention when Meta removes encrytion from WhatsApp.

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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              @evacide

              E2EE wasn't turned on by default in Instagram. The real reason they removed it — Meta doesn't earn benefits in privacy marketing

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                @evacide Was it ever E2EE, I wonder. They just got tired pretending.

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                  @evacide almost as if E2EE is not really useful with closed clients and closed servers controlled by the same central entity

                  it was always one feature flag away from being turned off with no one knowing anyway

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                    @evacide
                    Encryption is moot on devices where "ai" costantly reads your screen, listens to you, and soon will constantly watch your face as you read.

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                      @evacide it’s disgusting, but Meta shouldn’t be anyone’s choice for privacy-respecting solutions.

                      Perhaps in some future administration, the Feds will shock everyone by prioritizing citizen privacy over business profits and require E2EE.

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                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                        In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                        @evacide @encthenet Meta is apparently the corporation behind all the international lobbying for laws mandating age verification in operating systems and web browsers. Ditching E2EE in their own product is a no-brainer in this context.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                          @evacide Woah why did that happen? Wasn't their whole spiel that WhatsApp, Instagram and FB Messenger share the same encrypted backend? I hate that we are barraging head first into an age of private and government surveillance. I miss the days of everyone wants to be like Signal and use their protocol !!!

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                            @evacide it's not like it was actually working on Instagram, amirite

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                            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                              In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                              @evacide I wouldn’t trust anything Meta related anyway. Maybe Messenger and WhatsApp are up next on the chopping block?

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @evacide @encthenet Meta is apparently the corporation behind all the international lobbying for laws mandating age verification in operating systems and web browsers. Ditching E2EE in their own product is a no-brainer in this context.

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                                @cstross @evacide @encthenet

                                Was just about to say this. Meta are leading the charge for age verification because they're getting hammered for $58b in COPPA fines, so they're looking to shift the point of responsibility onto anyone else.

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                                • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @qgustavor @evacide we will see.

                                  I could imagine an EU intervention when Meta removes encrytion from WhatsApp.

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                                  @feyter @qgustavor @evacide

                                  I wouldn't bet on it. Heard of Chat Control? The EU are walking roughshod over their own history of privacy protections along with seemingly every government on earth in a desperate bid to read everyone's private information.

                                  Apart from theirs, because *of course* they've made themselves exempt from all the rules they want to impose on others...

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                                  • sar@social.elderlogs.netS sar@social.elderlogs.net

                                    @cstross @evacide @encthenet

                                    Was just about to say this. Meta are leading the charge for age verification because they're getting hammered for $58b in COPPA fines, so they're looking to shift the point of responsibility onto anyone else.

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                                    @sar @cstross @evacide @encthenet strikes me similarly; they're trying to show that they're doing something to "protect children" in the face of all the scrutiny they're under about the real harms they don't want to stop perpetuating

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                                      @evacide One more reason to walk away from Meta 🙄

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        In this golden age of surveillance, making E2EE chat normal and expected has been privacy's biggest win. I hate to see it getting rolled back. https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/meta-to-shut-down-instagram-end-to-end.html

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                                        @evacide Whoever is using Meta stuff at this point hasn't been paying attention.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          @evacide @encthenet Meta is apparently the corporation behind all the international lobbying for laws mandating age verification in operating systems and web browsers. Ditching E2EE in their own product is a no-brainer in this context.

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                                          @cstross @evacide @encthenet

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