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What are the go-to places for used test and measurement equipment in western Europe?

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  • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

    @q3k @gsuberland @fafo @wamserma We specifically want good PC interface performance for ngscopeclient and custom signal processing, LeCroy is the current leader for that at least among models I've checked. Rigols and Siglents are awful by comparison

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    @q3k @gsuberland @fafo @wamserma concrete numbers: rigol MSO5074, 1 channel, 1M points does 1.43 WFM/s or 1.43 Msps / 11.4 Mbps over SCPI LAN.
    At 10M points it'll do 0.54 WFM/s or 5.4 Msps / 43.2 Mbps.

    Siglent SDS6204A at 2.5M points on one channel does 2.04 WFM/s, 5.1 Msps, 40.8 Mbps.

    For comparison my LeCroy SDA (the WR8K is similar I just dont have those numbers handy) will do 10.1 WFM/s on *2* channels at 1M points, 20.2 Msps / 323 Mbps (16 bit transfer resolution even though 8-bit ADC because of internal DSP flatness corrections). One channel at 8M points is still 2.87 WFM/s, 22.9 Msps, 367 Mbps.

    With four channels active and using the FastWavePort feature the SDA can do 13.4 WFM/s with 1M point memory depth, which is 53.6 Msps or 857 Mbps, not quite saturating gig-e but respectably fast. This is over an OOM faster than the Rigol.

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      @q3k @gsuberland @fafo @wamserma concrete numbers: rigol MSO5074, 1 channel, 1M points does 1.43 WFM/s or 1.43 Msps / 11.4 Mbps over SCPI LAN.
      At 10M points it'll do 0.54 WFM/s or 5.4 Msps / 43.2 Mbps.

      Siglent SDS6204A at 2.5M points on one channel does 2.04 WFM/s, 5.1 Msps, 40.8 Mbps.

      For comparison my LeCroy SDA (the WR8K is similar I just dont have those numbers handy) will do 10.1 WFM/s on *2* channels at 1M points, 20.2 Msps / 323 Mbps (16 bit transfer resolution even though 8-bit ADC because of internal DSP flatness corrections). One channel at 8M points is still 2.87 WFM/s, 22.9 Msps, 367 Mbps.

      With four channels active and using the FastWavePort feature the SDA can do 13.4 WFM/s with 1M point memory depth, which is 53.6 Msps or 857 Mbps, not quite saturating gig-e but respectably fast. This is over an OOM faster than the Rigol.

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      @q3k @gsuberland @fafo @wamserma of course none of these can compete with the ThunderScope pushing 50 WFM/s with 20M point memory depth (1000 Msps / 8000 Mbps) but that doesn't have 1 GHz of bandwidth so until they release a faster model I'm stuck with slower PC performance

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      • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

        What are the go-to places for used test and measurement equipment in western Europe? Work is looking to expand one of their other labs and I'm only plugged into the north American refurb scene.

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        @azonenberg
        These two are my go-to's here.
        https://www.eqtsolutions.fi/
        https://eastrp.fi/index.html
        ETP seems to have just updated their web page completely and are still filling it. And even in the past the best way has been to email them directly with your inquiry "I need a signal generator that can do this, preferably cheap. What do you have?"

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          What are the go-to places for used test and measurement equipment in western Europe? Work is looking to expand one of their other labs and I'm only plugged into the north American refurb scene.

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          @azonenberg LeCroy has good ex demo sales regularly. We typically try to buy these as you can at least half off the sticker price. I just got an email from them today for HDO6104B-MS and MDA8208HD.

          For used stuff there is instrumex.de (I think they are connected with testequity somehow now).

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            @azonenberg LeCroy has good ex demo sales regularly. We typically try to buy these as you can at least half off the sticker price. I just got an email from them today for HDO6104B-MS and MDA8208HD.

            For used stuff there is instrumex.de (I think they are connected with testequity somehow now).

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            @owiecc wait you're still getting ex demo sales? Ping me with your sales contact or something.

            My US refurb sales rep got laid off a year or two ago and I thought they had just shut down the refurb sales department because the eBay store he used to run was empty

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