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worked with the tcpdump folks on an updated set of examples for the tcpdump man page https://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/tcpdump.1.html#lbAF

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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    @choomba i think this is it? from the 'pcap-filter' man page. from the ipv4 header format it looks like ip[2:2] is bytes 3 and 4 of the ip packet, which are teh length

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    @b0rk Ah, that's something new, thanks! It does start to make sense. We get the total length of the IP packet, subtract the IP header length and then the TCP header length. Really clever. I haven't looked this deep into protocols since uni!

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    • choomba@social.tchncs.deC choomba@social.tchncs.de

      @b0rk Ah, that's something new, thanks! It does start to make sense. We get the total length of the IP packet, subtract the IP header length and then the TCP header length. Really clever. I haven't looked this deep into protocols since uni!

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      @choomba @b0rk When a filter is tough to understand, you can dump the filter with -d and step through the compiled packet-matching code to see what it does. See https://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2004/09/understanding-tcpdumps-d-option-have.html and https://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2004/12/understanding-tcpdumps-d-option-part-2.html

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        worked with the tcpdump folks on an updated set of examples for the tcpdump man page https://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/tcpdump.1.html#lbAF

        the idea is that if you've forgotten how tcpdump's basic flags work, you can find a quick reference in the man page!

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        @b0rk

        > worked with the tcpdump folks on an updated set of examples for the tcpdump man page

        Thank you!

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        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

          worked with the tcpdump folks on an updated set of examples for the tcpdump man page https://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/tcpdump.1.html#lbAF

          the idea is that if you've forgotten how tcpdump's basic flags work, you can find a quick reference in the man page!

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          @b0rk cool! what's the process you usually go thru to get a change made like this?

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            worked with the tcpdump folks on an updated set of examples for the tcpdump man page https://www.tcpdump.org/manpages/tcpdump.1.html#lbAF

            the idea is that if you've forgotten how tcpdump's basic flags work, you can find a quick reference in the man page!

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            @b0rk
            Thanks a lot!

            man pages in general need more examples.

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            • pg@hci.socialP pg@hci.social

              @b0rk cool! what's the process you usually go thru to get a change made like this?

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              @pg for tcpdump and dig I just made a pull request and made the corrections the maintainers asked for. The maintainers were great and it was really straightforward.

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                @pg for tcpdump and dig I just made a pull request and made the corrections the maintainers asked for. The maintainers were great and it was really straightforward.

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                @b0rk great! a process working the way it ought to, refreshing. i suppose that 'older', more niche, or less in-the-spotlight projects may have less-frequent and higher-quality PRs, so the maintainer experience is more pleasant

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                • pg@hci.socialP pg@hci.social

                  @b0rk great! a process working the way it ought to, refreshing. i suppose that 'older', more niche, or less in-the-spotlight projects may have less-frequent and higher-quality PRs, so the maintainer experience is more pleasant

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                  @pg i hope so!

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                  • choomba@social.tchncs.deC choomba@social.tchncs.de

                    @b0rk or others, is there a page that explains a filter like this: tcp port 80 and (((ip[2:2] - ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) - ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2)) != 0)

                    I have no idea what is going on here. This is from the pcap filter man page. Why the masking and shifting and what is up with ip[2:2]? This part of tcpdump has remained a mystery to me for decades.

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                    Checking Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Header and
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol

                    • ip[2:2] is the size of the IP packet.
                    • ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) is the size of the IP header
                    • ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2) is the start of data in the tcp packets
                    So, this is filtering for tcp packets that have data (is, the TCP data offset is not equal to the end of the IP packet). This is a good example of inspecting packets directly, but definitely needs some additional explanation. Examples should probably not assume a fresh understanding of the protocol header structure.

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                    • ori@hj.9fs.netO ori@hj.9fs.net
                      Checking Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Header and
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol

                      • ip[2:2] is the size of the IP packet.
                      • ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) is the size of the IP header
                      • ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2) is the start of data in the tcp packets
                      So, this is filtering for tcp packets that have data (is, the TCP data offset is not equal to the end of the IP packet). This is a good example of inspecting packets directly, but definitely needs some additional explanation. Examples should probably not assume a fresh understanding of the protocol header structure.

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                      @ori @b0rk Small correction. The last one is the size of the TCP header, encoded in the high nibble of byte 12. I dove into this last night and finally understood it. It takes the full length of the IP packet (which wraps the TCP packet) and subtracts the IP and TCP header lengths. If the result is zero, we have a packet without data.

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