Ashley does things like write online textbooks for open neuroscience datasets.
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Or maybe just a general real-world research basics guide to becoming a better *reader* of all the studies you might see that come out about developers and technical problem-solving and technical work?
Or perhaps open shared community datasets needs to be the thing that exists first, and then materials to learn with them. I have been thinking about the possibilities of this the next time I get the space to run open science through Catharsis (ever optimistically assuming I can). I have been thinking for a long while that the only way we get out from the passive recipient model that "big industry report about developers" teaches us, is thinking of this as a real scientific practice
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Or maybe just a general real-world research basics guide to becoming a better *reader* of all the studies you might see that come out about developers and technical problem-solving and technical work?
@grimalkina yes please!!
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Or perhaps open shared community datasets needs to be the thing that exists first, and then materials to learn with them. I have been thinking about the possibilities of this the next time I get the space to run open science through Catharsis (ever optimistically assuming I can). I have been thinking for a long while that the only way we get out from the passive recipient model that "big industry report about developers" teaches us, is thinking of this as a real scientific practice
For Ashley, there are explicit funding sources for this curricula and teaching work (not enough of course). I've seen how she never could have carved out time for this without some funding -- and frankly it's time away from our life together, of course I deeply support it, but just to be honest about the continual cost -- and it's the kind of thing that has impact outward on many but isn't much rewarded on a single campus. That makes it right for a grant.
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For Ashley, there are explicit funding sources for this curricula and teaching work (not enough of course). I've seen how she never could have carved out time for this without some funding -- and frankly it's time away from our life together, of course I deeply support it, but just to be honest about the continual cost -- and it's the kind of thing that has impact outward on many but isn't much rewarded on a single campus. That makes it right for a grant.
For me and the work I've carved out for myself there are no such mechanisms, understandably because I know I'm not at a university. But I do wish that tech organizations could think bigger about who builds for tech communities and how. At any rate, it is interesting to think about Catharsis as a potential vehicle for my open science work; that was how I did the Learning in the Dark study, funded freely giving back with enough client work.
I don't know if that's possible in this market
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For me and the work I've carved out for myself there are no such mechanisms, understandably because I know I'm not at a university. But I do wish that tech organizations could think bigger about who builds for tech communities and how. At any rate, it is interesting to think about Catharsis as a potential vehicle for my open science work; that was how I did the Learning in the Dark study, funded freely giving back with enough client work.
I don't know if that's possible in this market
Hopefully this isn't thinking out loud too much but I always find it useful when I see other people sharing their thoughts in progress, so these are some of the things I'm dwelling on
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For me and the work I've carved out for myself there are no such mechanisms, understandably because I know I'm not at a university. But I do wish that tech organizations could think bigger about who builds for tech communities and how. At any rate, it is interesting to think about Catharsis as a potential vehicle for my open science work; that was how I did the Learning in the Dark study, funded freely giving back with enough client work.
I don't know if that's possible in this market
@grimalkina Well, trends in hiring looks like the market is improving. Maybe things will start picking up for you too?
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@grimalkina Well, trends in hiring looks like the market is improving. Maybe things will start picking up for you too?
@mayintoronto one can only hope!
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Or perhaps open shared community datasets needs to be the thing that exists first, and then materials to learn with them. I have been thinking about the possibilities of this the next time I get the space to run open science through Catharsis (ever optimistically assuming I can). I have been thinking for a long while that the only way we get out from the passive recipient model that "big industry report about developers" teaches us, is thinking of this as a real scientific practice
@grimalkina me and a friend enjoy doing the occasional weekend where we dig into open datasets.
We discovered that Harvard owns the largest $ of real estate in Boston. I think it was five Billion.
I'd planned to look for "slumlords" but many rental units are owned by a corporation that owns only that building, so the real owners are shrouded
I would certainly enjoy digging into open datasets!
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Hopefully this isn't thinking out loud too much but I always find it useful when I see other people sharing their thoughts in progress, so these are some of the things I'm dwelling on
Ashley's interactive online textbook, with its lessons that were tested with real-world learners, was supported by the Kavli Foundation. While there is an explosion of data in neuroscience, many are rightfully recognizing that for us to benefit from that explosion of data, we need to pursue goals they name as Findable, Accessible, Interoperable, and Reusable (FAIR)
Open Data in Neuroscience
The Kavli Foundation is dedicated to advancing science for the benefit of humanity.
Kavli Foundation (www.kavlifoundation.org)
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Ashley's interactive online textbook, with its lessons that were tested with real-world learners, was supported by the Kavli Foundation. While there is an explosion of data in neuroscience, many are rightfully recognizing that for us to benefit from that explosion of data, we need to pursue goals they name as Findable, Accessible, Interoperable, and Reusable (FAIR)
Open Data in Neuroscience
The Kavli Foundation is dedicated to advancing science for the benefit of humanity.
Kavli Foundation (www.kavlifoundation.org)
We interviewed Saskia de Vries about open science in this episode of Change, Technically, by the way!
Open science: hope is other people - Change, Technically
Much like open source software, open science is a path to distributed collaboration. By sharing the data from experiments and investigations open and available, scientists can multiply impact and discovery for teams they've never even met.Our guest, Saskia de Vries, talks to us about her work at ...
Buzzsprout (www.changetechnically.fyi)
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We interviewed Saskia de Vries about open science in this episode of Change, Technically, by the way!
Open science: hope is other people - Change, Technically
Much like open source software, open science is a path to distributed collaboration. By sharing the data from experiments and investigations open and available, scientists can multiply impact and discovery for teams they've never even met.Our guest, Saskia de Vries, talks to us about her work at ...
Buzzsprout (www.changetechnically.fyi)
It is frustrating to me that software development is such an enormous world, of such importance to both the people in it and to the functioning of....everything....and we have few visions for open science around the experiences of human beings here doing this work.
It was incredibly difficult already in my career to get buy-in for even just open PUBLISHING. Now I am pushing at something far more radical, because in tech, sharing data is essentially a radioactive concept.
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It is frustrating to me that software development is such an enormous world, of such importance to both the people in it and to the functioning of....everything....and we have few visions for open science around the experiences of human beings here doing this work.
It was incredibly difficult already in my career to get buy-in for even just open PUBLISHING. Now I am pushing at something far more radical, because in tech, sharing data is essentially a radioactive concept.
Thankfully I have models that inspire me that are not from tech.
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@grimalkina me and a friend enjoy doing the occasional weekend where we dig into open datasets.
We discovered that Harvard owns the largest $ of real estate in Boston. I think it was five Billion.
I'd planned to look for "slumlords" but many rental units are owned by a corporation that owns only that building, so the real owners are shrouded
I would certainly enjoy digging into open datasets!
@shapr I bet lots of people would! Yet another reason datasets shouldn't just stay locked under one researcher. You never know how much other people will uncover if they become shared resources.
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Hopefully this isn't thinking out loud too much but I always find it useful when I see other people sharing their thoughts in progress, so these are some of the things I'm dwelling on
@grimalkina A thing I've been meaning to ask you, particularly about research into sociology and the performance of teams, is "what do the first steps into this mindset look like in practice". As in: I'm a young, relatively inexperienced manager, recently in a new leadership role. What should I do (or avoid), when I'm trying to propose and show evidence for change, to be confident I'm asking a question that matters, and get (and responsibly interpret!) data that actually informs that question?
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@grimalkina A thing I've been meaning to ask you, particularly about research into sociology and the performance of teams, is "what do the first steps into this mindset look like in practice". As in: I'm a young, relatively inexperienced manager, recently in a new leadership role. What should I do (or avoid), when I'm trying to propose and show evidence for change, to be confident I'm asking a question that matters, and get (and responsibly interpret!) data that actually informs that question?
@grimalkina I guess this is sort of like asking, what is the "med students make a scientific poster" version for your field for new participants. I was going to say "high school science fairs" but then I realized that science fairs are sort of a gateway drug to the whole social process of science that keeps getting more elaborate and ceremonialized as the number of letters you accumulate after your name gets more involved.
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@grimalkina I guess this is sort of like asking, what is the "med students make a scientific poster" version for your field for new participants. I was going to say "high school science fairs" but then I realized that science fairs are sort of a gateway drug to the whole social process of science that keeps getting more elaborate and ceremonialized as the number of letters you accumulate after your name gets more involved.
@mhoye I like that a lot and I need to give it some thought. I think in my consulting I end up at a version of this: here is the bare minimum way you can add one vetted, scientifically-robust measure (e.g. of learning culture) of the human part of software, often strategically in a pre existing survey, or add a couple of interviews done in a structured way, and here are the top 2-3 pitfalls I want you to guard against. That is a basic evidence consulting package we often end up at
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@mhoye I like that a lot and I need to give it some thought. I think in my consulting I end up at a version of this: here is the bare minimum way you can add one vetted, scientifically-robust measure (e.g. of learning culture) of the human part of software, often strategically in a pre existing survey, or add a couple of interviews done in a structured way, and here are the top 2-3 pitfalls I want you to guard against. That is a basic evidence consulting package we often end up at
@mhoye but I think some elements you are drawing rightful attention to are the ritual and the belonging that comes from pre-existing forms. It IS really hard to be the person who does the first social sciencey-kind of measure inside of an engineering organization and one of the reasons I want to work out loud and share so much is because I want people to know they're not alone and that there is a bigger community of knowledge they can feel part of. Not sure how we build that but essential
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It is frustrating to me that software development is such an enormous world, of such importance to both the people in it and to the functioning of....everything....and we have few visions for open science around the experiences of human beings here doing this work.
It was incredibly difficult already in my career to get buy-in for even just open PUBLISHING. Now I am pushing at something far more radical, because in tech, sharing data is essentially a radioactive concept.
@grimalkina In a recent job interview, for a medical device cloud software company, I got asked:
What do you think your deliverables and accomplishments could be after the first 30 days at this job?
I gave my usual answer:
Not software. I spend the first month at any new job just asking questions and gathering stories. I focus hard on confidence: what are the places where devs tread lightly? Where do they have a nagging fear of the bus factor? What activities do they avoid? I find I my biggest impact is not from "10x tools", but from simple fixes to the scary parts. Confident is faster and safer.
The interviewer wasn't prepared for that answer and moved on quickly.
Later, when asked if I had any questions, I came back to the topic: where did the interviewer see their people losing confidence?
They had no answer for it. And couldn't come up with anything when pressed.
It amazes me how many leaders forget the human parts of building tech. It seems almost willfully avoidant.
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@mhoye but I think some elements you are drawing rightful attention to are the ritual and the belonging that comes from pre-existing forms. It IS really hard to be the person who does the first social sciencey-kind of measure inside of an engineering organization and one of the reasons I want to work out loud and share so much is because I want people to know they're not alone and that there is a bigger community of knowledge they can feel part of. Not sure how we build that but essential
@grimalkina Oh, absolutely - being the first person to try to make change in a new way is a huge hill that's basically invisible to anyone who isn't trying to climb it. I wonder if there maybe something like an on-ramp to "vetted, scientifically-robust" that would make "we need vetting" more accessible? Like, what does a starting attempt at empirically informed change need, to be visibly a plausible attempt at rigor, morally defensible and not obvious nonsense.
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