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I hate this timeline.

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  • space_burger_steve@mstdn.caS space_burger_steve@mstdn.ca

    @MilitaryG @chris

    The first DC locomotive was built in 1837, AC in 1896. The first electric car was built in 1834, and in 1900 38% of the cars in America were electric. No way was an electric car impossible in 1996.

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    And even if it was, that's why I mentioned fuel cells, which is probably what W was talking about when he mentioned hydrogen. Batteries are better now, but in the 90s fuel cells looked like the better option. In fact, the company I mentioned is still making fuel cells today, apparently they're a good alternative to diesel for busses:

    Just a moment...

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    We could have made way more progress than we have in the last 30 years.

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    @Space_Burger_Steve @MilitaryG GM released the first “modern” production North American electric car, the EV1, in 1996.

    Then they killed it.

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    We are in the predicament we are because of very specific choices by very particular people and nothing more.

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    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

      I hate this timeline.

      As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

      We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

      #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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      @chris
      While I don't hope for war to go on, I do wish the few smart governments that still exist will get the message and adapt accordingly.

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      • floreana@poliversity.itF floreana@poliversity.it

        @chris
        While I don't hope for war to go on, I do wish the few smart governments that still exist will get the message and adapt accordingly.

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        @floreana me too

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        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

          I hate this timeline.

          As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

          We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

          #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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          @chris In the current globalized world order, countries at war are still dependent on one another's trade. Murder is permitted, of course. You can bomb schools and hospitals and commit outright genocides - but its the interruption of a supply chain gets treated as a war crime.

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          • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

            @chris In the current globalized world order, countries at war are still dependent on one another's trade. Murder is permitted, of course. You can bomb schools and hospitals and commit outright genocides - but its the interruption of a supply chain gets treated as a war crime.

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            @zazzoo sick, isn't it.

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            • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

              @chris In the current globalized world order, countries at war are still dependent on one another's trade. Murder is permitted, of course. You can bomb schools and hospitals and commit outright genocides - but its the interruption of a supply chain gets treated as a war crime.

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              @zazzoo @chris
              It is argued that Germany lost WWI due to attacking all of its food suppliers.They starved themselves into submission. Can't have that happen again, I guess.

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              • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                @chris In the current globalized world order, countries at war are still dependent on one another's trade. Murder is permitted, of course. You can bomb schools and hospitals and commit outright genocides - but its the interruption of a supply chain gets treated as a war crime.

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                @zazzoo @chris

                There's been some serious economics research into this. And oddly, supply chain interruptions are often more deadly than the event itself.

                US sanctions regimes have cut off tens of millions of people (if not hundreds) from essential medicines or treatments. Or access to sufficient food.

                They see similar things in disaster zones. A very limited number of people typically die in the hurricane or the flood. Most of the deaths come afterwards when people can't get medical attention or essential food supplies are cut off.

                In no way does this justify shooting people, that's also terrible.

                But with the straight of Hormuz cut off. That lack of fertilizer and fuel could represent far more death outside of Iran than inside it.

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                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                  I hate this timeline.

                  As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                  We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                  #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                  @chris seeing missiles hit oil refineries gives me complicated feelings. They need to be dismantled. Controlled demolition would have been nicer, but who am I to complain about the rapid and messy approach, given that there was no chance to do the slow and careful demolition?

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                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                    @cameron29 reuse/convert ice to ev!

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                    @chris that would be a cool project to do when my current car end up needing to be replaced.

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                    • militaryg@mastodon.gamedev.placeM militaryg@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @Space_Burger_Steve @chris agree but problem was battery wasn't so efficient as it's today the most effective was lead battery which would make car weight maybe 10 tons to drive maybe 50km

                      With li-ions it's much better.

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                      @MilitaryG @Space_Burger_Steve @chris Connecticut has had pumped hydro storage since 1929. Still operational. Obviously not a battery solution possible everywhere, but certainly could have been more widely adopted to address the battery “problem.”

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                      • C cameron29@mastodon.social

                        @chris that would be a cool project to do when my current car end up needing to be replaced.

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                        @cameron29 I wanted to do it to my old family 1976 Fiat Spider but it wasn’t to be and it went to the scrapper instead.

                        To be a serious we need to create a recycling and conversion industry in Canada!

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