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I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film?

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  • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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    I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

    #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

    rustoleumlove@mastodon.onlineR moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM tmcfarlane@toot.communityT marchyman@sfba.socialM wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW 8 Replies Last reply
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    • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

      I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

      #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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      @kaiser_franz

      i've just been taught by someone else, who just goes from one chemical to another with no rinse, but he does use stop bath

      there is a ten minute final rinse (4 changes) in his method, which is also using a jobo

      so far i've been pleased with the results.
      he's done 100s maybe 1000s, ive done 5

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      • rustoleumlove@mastodon.onlineR rustoleumlove@mastodon.online

        @kaiser_franz

        i've just been taught by someone else, who just goes from one chemical to another with no rinse, but he does use stop bath

        there is a ten minute final rinse (4 changes) in his method, which is also using a jobo

        so far i've been pleased with the results.
        he's done 100s maybe 1000s, ive done 5

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        @rustoleumlove Do you happen to know if he reuses the stop bath from roll to roll, and how long his fixer lasts? I just rinse after the developer, and then pour the fixer in. I generally get through about 65-70 rolls before I mix up new fixer, fixing for 5 mins each time, whether it's the first or the last roll.

        I'm still relatively new at this, and not asserting that this is the "right" way, but it did make me curious what others do!

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        • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

          I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

          #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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          @kaiser_franz It has been a minute. But I answered with what I did, when I was doing it.

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          • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

            @rustoleumlove Do you happen to know if he reuses the stop bath from roll to roll, and how long his fixer lasts? I just rinse after the developer, and then pour the fixer in. I generally get through about 65-70 rolls before I mix up new fixer, fixing for 5 mins each time, whether it's the first or the last roll.

            I'm still relatively new at this, and not asserting that this is the "right" way, but it did make me curious what others do!

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            @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove I go from one chemical to another and use the stop bath about 10 times (20 35mm films). Worked for the last 500 times 😉

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            • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

              @rustoleumlove Do you happen to know if he reuses the stop bath from roll to roll, and how long his fixer lasts? I just rinse after the developer, and then pour the fixer in. I generally get through about 65-70 rolls before I mix up new fixer, fixing for 5 mins each time, whether it's the first or the last roll.

              I'm still relatively new at this, and not asserting that this is the "right" way, but it did make me curious what others do!

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              @kaiser_franz

              yes, the stop bath gets reused.
              it all gets reused.

              he keeps track of the number of uses, and i think also the date that the chemicals were made, and only reuses the stuff X number of times...

              i dont know how many, but i will ask

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              • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

                #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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                @kaiser_franz mostly just water rinse. If the dev time is short (< 5 mins), I'll use a stop bath, but that's rare for me now.

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                • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                  I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

                  #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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                  @kaiser_franz Flush with running water for about a minute then fix.

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                  • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                    I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

                    #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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                    @kaiser_franz I've done both with water and with stop. No quality difference I can see, but without stop will likely affect the effective life of your stop.

                    And stop is cheap

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                    • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                      I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

                      #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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                      @kaiser_franz I use Zone Ecofix, which says a stop bath is unnecessary. So I just do a thorough water rinse before fixing. Haven’t had issues thus far. I went to this straight from my introduction to dev as a monobath user, so I’ve never used stop baths before

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                      • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                        I'm curious...do you use a stop bath when developing film? Feel free to boost for a larger sample size, but please don't feel obligated.

                        #FilmPhotography #DevelopYourOwn #AnalogPhotography #BelieveInFilm

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                        @kaiser_franz
                        I still have a film tank, but it's so long since I developed film that I can't remember. I only ever did B&W and last time I was using a slide projector adapted to take film strips to print enlargements.
                        Then in later 1/2 1990s used PhotoCDs (not Picture CDs which were rubbish). The lab closed & I did little till I got a Canon EOS70D. Still have the Olympus OM10 kit in the attic.

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                          @carusb @kaiser_franz I do the same, Photo-Flo is in a separate container and the film goes in loose.

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                          • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                            @rustoleumlove Do you happen to know if he reuses the stop bath from roll to roll, and how long his fixer lasts? I just rinse after the developer, and then pour the fixer in. I generally get through about 65-70 rolls before I mix up new fixer, fixing for 5 mins each time, whether it's the first or the last roll.

                            I'm still relatively new at this, and not asserting that this is the "right" way, but it did make me curious what others do!

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                            @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove I will reuse stop bath for all the rolls in one batch but I don’t store it between developing sessions. I use hypo-check with fixer before each dev session. If the fixer is off I pour it into a jug and then take it to our local hazardous waste facility when the jug gets full.

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                            • tomnorthfilm@mastoart.socialT tomnorthfilm@mastoart.social

                              @carusb @kaiser_franz I do the same, Photo-Flo is in a separate container and the film goes in loose.

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                              @carusb @kaiser_franz I use the Ilford wash method. This saves a lot of time and water use.

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                              • kaiser_franz@infosec.exchangeK kaiser_franz@infosec.exchange

                                @rustoleumlove Do you happen to know if he reuses the stop bath from roll to roll, and how long his fixer lasts? I just rinse after the developer, and then pour the fixer in. I generally get through about 65-70 rolls before I mix up new fixer, fixing for 5 mins each time, whether it's the first or the last roll.

                                I'm still relatively new at this, and not asserting that this is the "right" way, but it did make me curious what others do!

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                                @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove I'm not sure what your volume of fixer you are mixing is, but 65-70 rolls is an awful lot for say 1lt of fix. I generally get around 12-15. I change it once the total fix time goes > 6 min (given total fix time as twice the time to clear, so if clear time for a regular non-tgrain film goes > 3 min). I use the zone image eco-fix, but capacity wise, ilford rapid fix was very similar.

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                                  @carusb @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove What I’ve read says it’s best to treat fixer as hazardous waste, at least where we live. All other chems go down the drain.

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                                    @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove I'm not sure what your volume of fixer you are mixing is, but 65-70 rolls is an awful lot for say 1lt of fix. I generally get around 12-15. I change it once the total fix time goes > 6 min (given total fix time as twice the time to clear, so if clear time for a regular non-tgrain film goes > 3 min). I use the zone image eco-fix, but capacity wise, ilford rapid fix was very similar.

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                                    @tmcfarlane @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove I also get around 12-15 rolls per liter of fixer. I trust hypo-check.

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                                    • tomnorthfilm@mastoart.socialT tomnorthfilm@mastoart.social

                                      @carusb @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove What I’ve read says it’s best to treat fixer as hazardous waste, at least where we live. All other chems go down the drain.

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                                      @tomnorthfilm @carusb @kaiser_franz @rustoleumlove
                                      Apparently most of the recovery methods result in the liquid being worse than the original fixer (especially electrolysis). I did read that raw salt can be used, but also read that, in home quantities, the sulphur in sewage systems is enough to reduce the hazardous content of the fixer. I engage my brain in Confirmation Bias mode and poor it down the sink.

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                                        @carusb why photo-flo is a separate container? Does it leave residue in the tank that doesn't come off with a wash? I end up with photo flow in a separate jug if I'm doing more than one run anyway for reuse but curious.
                                        I switched to distilled water for photo-flo step and that's been great for not worrying about drying spots.
                                        @kaiser_franz

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                                        • shom@gts.shom.devS shom@gts.shom.dev

                                          @carusb why photo-flo is a separate container? Does it leave residue in the tank that doesn't come off with a wash? I end up with photo flow in a separate jug if I'm doing more than one run anyway for reuse but curious.
                                          I switched to distilled water for photo-flo step and that's been great for not worrying about drying spots.
                                          @kaiser_franz

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                                          @shom @carusb @kaiser_franz Yeah, photo-flo is notorious for leaving a film on everything. It can gum up reels and contaminate the next development if not washed off properly.

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