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There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    That is not a simple position to hold, but precisely none of those complexities point to embracing the relatively extreme position of AI adoption, let alone AI boosterism.

    Nuanced and complex positions are not necessarily those that coincide with popular discourse. You are not necessarily a more careful thinker for hedging your own internal cognition towards media narratives.

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    That's a really good point.

    I'd like to add that you are not self-disciplined for suppressing your conscience.

    @xgranade

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      There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

      I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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      @xgranade So very true. See also: https://svpow.com/2014/03/20/a-nuanced-position-isnt-always-correct/

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      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

        There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

        I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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        @xgranade

        I'd rather no AI, but that horse has left the barn - AI is not going away; so not wise IMO to not make use of its positive aspects. There are many aspects to AI - not just slop.

        H (Human) I is failing miserably (disinformation, fascism, climate change, etc.). AI carries with it existential risks, but also enormous potential for good: evidence-based information at everyone's fingertips, medicine, personalized education.

        Regulating AI is essential.

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          (Similarly, I might well be criticized for discussing things in relatively idealistic terms, and ignoring how one might be *coerced* into using or promoting AI. I will defend my discussion on idealistic terms, as "AI is bad, don't use it because of this list of reasons" is already a nuanced and complex statement about what one should ideally do. Adding the other layer of constrained choices under capitalistic coercion is another necessary complexity, but a separate and complementary discussion.)

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          @xgranade Honestly, it just sounds like the way vegans talk about veganism. "As far as is possible and practicable." is a phrase that is often used.

          (Am vegan, this is not criticism, the opposite actually)

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          • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

            (Similarly, I might well be criticized for discussing things in relatively idealistic terms, and ignoring how one might be *coerced* into using or promoting AI. I will defend my discussion on idealistic terms, as "AI is bad, don't use it because of this list of reasons" is already a nuanced and complex statement about what one should ideally do. Adding the other layer of constrained choices under capitalistic coercion is another necessary complexity, but a separate and complementary discussion.)

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            @xgranade IMO the only " Nuance" I personally would suggest in this is that AI /= GenAI. Like GPS is not NEARLY as bad as ChatGPT and all that with LLMs. AI can have it's uses, but LLMs are practically being sold as snake oil if that makes sense.

            Edit: I should add this goes for Pro-AI people saying stuff like "AI is here to stay", "Everyone uses AI" and stuff like that.

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