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  • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

    @marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

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    @siracusa @marcoshuerta @caseyliss The issues most folks had were around early software issues that drained it prematurely. I have a trickle charger I bought off Amazon just in case, but I don't typically let me car sit for weeks without it being turned or at least plugged in. After 5.5 years, mine shows 13.5-13.7V in regular use. Ironically, our IONIQ 5 had the same software drain issue…hence, the trickle charger.

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    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

      678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
      https://atp.fm/678

      More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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      @atpfm @caseyliss I’m still in love with my 2018 BMW. Yes, I’ve poured money into it, but the newer cars don’t provide the same locked-in driving experience.

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      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

        678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
        https://atp.fm/678

        More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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        #33

        @atpfm i4 is a nice car, although it does suffer from being, essentially, an ICE car. It even has a tunnel!

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        • trentstevens@mastodon.socialT trentstevens@mastodon.social

          @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having replaced a 12v battery in a Macan Turbo I know I saved > $500 off dealer cost by borrowing a programmer from a friend to register the new self installed battery.

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          #34

          @trentstevens
          Yeah unfortunately it seems like battery registration really does make a difference in longevity.
          Our model 3’s 12v is lead acid so it was $89 at the service center (cheaper than Autozone!). It would have been just $125 to have mobile service come out and replace it!
          But all our other cars have AGMs and 2 of them require registration. Thankfully I’ve never had to replace one.
          @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta

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          • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

            @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta If you replace the main one, I'd expect them to throw in a change of the smaller one too. $$$

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            @WTL @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta and deny you the opportunity to create a personal relationship with the service department? Perish the thought…

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            • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

              678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
              https://atp.fm/678

              More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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              #36

              @atpfm @caseyliss Can’t wait until ATP discovers BMW ‘Neue Klasse’ and the firestorm that will follow. (Deutche edit)

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              • wktenbrook@twit.socialW wktenbrook@twit.social

                @atpfm @caseyliss Can’t wait until ATP discovers BMW ‘Neue Klasse’ and the firestorm that will follow. (Deutche edit)

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                @wktenbrook I am very aware already.

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                • trentstevens@mastodon.socialT trentstevens@mastodon.social

                  @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having replaced a 12v battery in a Macan Turbo I know I saved > $500 off dealer cost by borrowing a programmer from a friend to register the new self installed battery.

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                  @trentstevens @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Another reason Casey really needs to get VCDS or OBDeleven.

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                  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                    678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                    https://atp.fm/678

                    More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                    #39

                    @atpfm oh boy ... Porsche, that is a whole rabbit hole to dig in ... but one thing for the two gears in the Taycan. The shifting is happening around 60mph and it is not because of higher torque at launch control or so. It is to reach better efficiency on high speed. So the 2 gear transmission has a total different meaning vs combustion engines ... an torque is not a problem for a e-motor.

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                    • fo@chaos.socialF fo@chaos.social

                      @atpfm oh boy ... Porsche, that is a whole rabbit hole to dig in ... but one thing for the two gears in the Taycan. The shifting is happening around 60mph and it is not because of higher torque at launch control or so. It is to reach better efficiency on high speed. So the 2 gear transmission has a total different meaning vs combustion engines ... an torque is not a problem for a e-motor.

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                      @atpfm and to understand the Taycan issue better (especially regarding the pre Facelift) I recommend to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohjnE-8Vug ... one could think: Wow thats a good deal for me ... you get them cheap ... but some caveats. The whole Porsche electrification is also a huge topic in Germany btw.

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                      • fo@chaos.socialF fo@chaos.social

                        @atpfm and to understand the Taycan issue better (especially regarding the pre Facelift) I recommend to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohjnE-8Vug ... one could think: Wow thats a good deal for me ... you get them cheap ... but some caveats. The whole Porsche electrification is also a huge topic in Germany btw.

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                        @atpfm The issue with Porsche Buyers is that they expected to have an „investment“ in to a vehicle long term ... back then there was a saying here „Only for the first Porsche you really pay“. That is definitely not the case with the Taycan ... because of that „investment“ chain of thought Porsche owners happily pay the insane maintenance costs also btw ... good concept of Porsche ...

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                        • fo@chaos.socialF fo@chaos.social

                          @atpfm The issue with Porsche Buyers is that they expected to have an „investment“ in to a vehicle long term ... back then there was a saying here „Only for the first Porsche you really pay“. That is definitely not the case with the Taycan ... because of that „investment“ chain of thought Porsche owners happily pay the insane maintenance costs also btw ... good concept of Porsche ...

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                          @atpfm one more video (in orignal German language only, but google translates I believe): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYIu15OAODg ... there are thousands of comments below ... there are quality issues with the old Taycan ... maybe it is a smaller percentage ... I don’t know, but Onboard Charger and heaters are named here prominently ... as sexy as the vehicle is ... I would reconsider it ...

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                          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                            678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                            https://atp.fm/678

                            More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                            @atpfm https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/1r2ppio/jony_ive_designs_the_new_ev_ferrari/

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                            • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                              678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                              https://atp.fm/678

                              More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                              @atpfm #askatp Why still nothing about #ubiquiti selling equipment to the Russian military serving their terrorist war against #ukraine? https://mastodon.world/@sommer/115994194499797542

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                              • sommer@mastodon.worldS sommer@mastodon.world

                                @atpfm #askatp Why still nothing about #ubiquiti selling equipment to the Russian military serving their terrorist war against #ukraine? https://mastodon.world/@sommer/115994194499797542

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                                @sommer It’s been in the internal notes document since the story broke, but a) other things have taken priority, and b) I’d like to see more corroboration from entities other than a place shorting the stock. Got additional sources?

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                                • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

                                  @wktenbrook I am very aware already.

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                                  @siracusa I thought so. ATP would have an interesting take considering BMW Panoramic iDrive and ‘OS X’ leans into a more software-defined experience (with fully touch screen HVAC controls and bonus flush door handles). But even assuming the new design is desirable, 2027 US release may not work for Casey’s ‘itch.’

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                                  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                                    678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                                    https://atp.fm/678

                                    More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                                    @atpfm @caseyliss hey, BMW tech here (I’m pretty sure we talked before about BMWs when you had the E90). If you have any questions about the i4, I’ll get answers for you.

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                                    • mikepfeifer@mastodon.socialM mikepfeifer@mastodon.social

                                      @atpfm @caseyliss hey, BMW tech here (I’m pretty sure we talked before about BMWs when you had the E90). If you have any questions about the i4, I’ll get answers for you.

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                                      @MikePfeifer ah yes!

                                      Basically, my only question is, am I signing myself up for N55 levels of pain if I get one of these? 🥴

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                                      • caseyliss@mastodon.socialC caseyliss@mastodon.social

                                        @MikePfeifer ah yes!

                                        Basically, my only question is, am I signing myself up for N55 levels of pain if I get one of these? 🥴

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                                        @caseyliss I mean, as you know, there are no guarantees in life. That said, the i4 has been pretty solid for the most part. We sell a lot of them here in the Tampa area, and we are a fairly busy dealer. By far the most we see them for is tires and any recalls (usually software). We do get some “my car doesn’t charge” type complaints but that seems to be almost always the charging equipment and not the car. Some people have trouble with the phone connection, which is usually not the cars fault.

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                                        • mikepfeifer@mastodon.socialM mikepfeifer@mastodon.social

                                          @caseyliss I mean, as you know, there are no guarantees in life. That said, the i4 has been pretty solid for the most part. We sell a lot of them here in the Tampa area, and we are a fairly busy dealer. By far the most we see them for is tires and any recalls (usually software). We do get some “my car doesn’t charge” type complaints but that seems to be almost always the charging equipment and not the car. Some people have trouble with the phone connection, which is usually not the cars fault.

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                                          @caseyliss I have repaired exactly one i4 HV battery which was a control module issue, and repaired one rear drive unit which was a sensor issue. Neither were complete replacements. The G series cars have been fairly solid in general. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

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