I see virtually no discussion of the relationship between protocol design and carbon footprint…
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I see virtually no discussion of the relationship between protocol design and carbon footprint…
shouldn’t that be one of the most important considerations in thinking about social media design right now?
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I see virtually no discussion of the relationship between protocol design and carbon footprint…
shouldn’t that be one of the most important considerations in thinking about social media design right now?
@UlrikeHahn interesting question: my first instinct was to think about how can video CDNs be deduplicated while staying decentralised/resilient, as video is really the main factor here, text (whatever format) is just so much smaller in size
looked into it, then i saw this claim from the IEA: "Based on average viewing habits, my updated analysis shows that viewing devices account for the majority of energy use (72%), followed by data transmission (23%) and data centres (5%). "
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@UlrikeHahn interesting question: my first instinct was to think about how can video CDNs be deduplicated while staying decentralised/resilient, as video is really the main factor here, text (whatever format) is just so much smaller in size
looked into it, then i saw this claim from the IEA: "Based on average viewing habits, my updated analysis shows that viewing devices account for the majority of energy use (72%), followed by data transmission (23%) and data centres (5%). "
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@UlrikeHahn if thats true (no idea, this was just quick searching) than the main contributor to energy usage is actually not video CDNs, but devices that do autoscroll videos. so if youd want to optimise for lower carbon footprints youd want a protocol that either deprioritises the possibility to have autoscroll video, or has a flexible frontend/client layer that allows people to select clients that dont use autoscroll for video
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@UlrikeHahn if thats true (no idea, this was just quick searching) than the main contributor to energy usage is actually not video CDNs, but devices that do autoscroll videos. so if youd want to optimise for lower carbon footprints youd want a protocol that either deprioritises the possibility to have autoscroll video, or has a flexible frontend/client layer that allows people to select clients that dont use autoscroll for video
@UlrikeHahn (https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the-carbon-footprint-of-streaming-video-fact-checking-the-headlines)
this is just on the top of my head though, havent looked into it much beyond this
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@UlrikeHahn (https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the-carbon-footprint-of-streaming-video-fact-checking-the-headlines)
this is just on the top of my head though, havent looked into it much beyond this
another vibe guess is that the interesting thing here is probably neither activitypub nor atproto, but figuring out distributed CDNs, which is most likely agnostic to either atproto or activitypub. peertube's work with p2p streaming is probably relevant here
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another vibe guess is that the interesting thing here is probably neither activitypub nor atproto, but figuring out distributed CDNs, which is most likely agnostic to either atproto or activitypub. peertube's work with p2p streaming is probably relevant here
@UlrikeHahn the people from stream.place also got very excited about this recently: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nandakumar-atproto-atom-00.html
sorta directionally similar to peertube in the sense that they are both trying to solve for how to video CDN primitives into the social protocol layer
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I see virtually no discussion of the relationship between protocol design and carbon footprint…
shouldn’t that be one of the most important considerations in thinking about social media design right now?
@UlrikeHahn that is a very good point.
And I missed addressing that in my issue on the ActivityPub API earlier, which holds opportunity to do a fedi course correction..
Protocol design · Issue #66 · swicg/activitypub-api
(This issue is created in follow-up of #63 Avoid misconception and #4 Rate limiting, and related fedi thread.) Avoiding misconceptions: What is a profile? I think my overarching concern is that the ActivityPub API specification doesn't b...
GitHub (github.com)
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@UlrikeHahn that is a very good point.
And I missed addressing that in my issue on the ActivityPub API earlier, which holds opportunity to do a fedi course correction..
Protocol design · Issue #66 · swicg/activitypub-api
(This issue is created in follow-up of #63 Avoid misconception and #4 Rate limiting, and related fedi thread.) Avoiding misconceptions: What is a profile? I think my overarching concern is that the ActivityPub API specification doesn't b...
GitHub (github.com)
See also: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116379158584600016
Should become an intrinsic part of Social experience design (SX), which follows a holistic Circles of sustainability model..
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