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How can a mastodon user tell if their account is "hidden" or "limited" ?

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  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

    @FediTips @footils

    have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

    have you not questioned why?

    a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

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    @charlesdelavalleepoussin

    Who are you suggesting should regulate it? Elon Musk? Mark Zuckerberg? Donald Trump?

    Every time there has been a centralised authority running a social network, it has ended up in the hands of billionaires that support hatred.

    The idea of this place is to give the grassroots control of their social networks. If you would prefer social networks to be corporate, there are already plenty of corporate options.

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    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

      @FediTips

      I'm not communicating with that server. I communicated with people I followed and who followed me.

      Your privileged rationalisation of victimhood will age badly.

      What I'm hearing is that there is zero mechanism for holding admins/owners to account. How convenient.

      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @charlesdelavalleepoussin

      I'm not completely clear how an account being limited is victimhood?

      What are you suggesting social networks should do instead, not limit accounts at all?

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      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

        @footils @FediTips

        ive heard from several people who have not been emailed a reason

        (I too on previous servers had my account disabled completely with no reason and no response from the admin/owner, and also no reply for GDPR requests given they were based in the EU)

        footils@social.cologneF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @FediTips

        I should have looked at this profile before interacting with an antisemite. Bye.

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        • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

          @FediTips @footils

          have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

          have you not questioned why?

          a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

          The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

          There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

          We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

          No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

            The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

            There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

            We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

            No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

            feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

            I follow a lot of people critical of the Fediverse on my personal account to keep tabs on how bad the problem is and what exactly is going wrong.

            The main issue raised is too many purveyors of hatred being allowed to attack members of minorities. Allowing hate puts people off staying here, accounts posting hate need to be banned.

            If you removed all limits on what accounts could say and do, it would make the situation much worse.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              @charlesdelavalleepoussin

              Who are you suggesting should regulate it? Elon Musk? Mark Zuckerberg? Donald Trump?

              Every time there has been a centralised authority running a social network, it has ended up in the hands of billionaires that support hatred.

              The idea of this place is to give the grassroots control of their social networks. If you would prefer social networks to be corporate, there are already plenty of corporate options.

              charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @FediTips

              you show a lack of imagination

              many people have suggested ideas such as

              * mandatory transparency to ensure rogue admins are held to account

              * public statstistics on admin behaviour incl GDPR complaince

              * users having a right to a second binding opinion

              * voting in supervisory groups / committees to balance rogue admins

              * ... etc etc

              but the aristocracy always ignore such ideas

              the fediverse conferences as a result are very much self-congratulatory

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin

                I'm not completely clear how an account being limited is victimhood?

                What are you suggesting social networks should do instead, not limit accounts at all?

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                @FediTips

                you've shown a poor level of maturity (like some mastodon admins) and I can't make you understand

                but this conversation will perhaps highlight to others what the issue is

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                  The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

                  There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

                  We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

                  No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

                  charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @FediTips @footils

                  who defines hatred?

                  immature white europeans?

                  we've seen where that leads

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                    I follow a lot of people critical of the Fediverse on my personal account to keep tabs on how bad the problem is and what exactly is going wrong.

                    The main issue raised is too many purveyors of hatred being allowed to attack members of minorities. Allowing hate puts people off staying here, accounts posting hate need to be banned.

                    If you removed all limits on what accounts could say and do, it would make the situation much worse.

                    charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social
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                    @FediTips @footils

                    im a minority

                    im telling you that the problem is not "hate" but censorship by biased European admins

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                    • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                      @FediTips @footils

                      have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

                      have you not questioned why?

                      a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

                      robert@people.unfoo.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips @footils how do you get the idea mastodon is "un-diverse"? any example of some sort of social network that is more diverse?
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                      • robert@people.unfoo.netR robert@people.unfoo.net
                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips @footils how do you get the idea mastodon is "un-diverse"? any example of some sort of social network that is more diverse?
                        charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @robert @footils @FediTips

                        Twitter, IG, Bluesky are far more diverse than mastodon - and I've been on about 5 difference servers over a number of years.

                        What made you ask such a poorly informed question?

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                        • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                          @FediTips @footils

                          im a minority

                          im telling you that the problem is not "hate" but censorship by biased European admins

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                          @FediTips @footils

                          I'm blocking you - tired of this confident ignorance

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