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A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

    Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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    @nixCraft "And for other purposes."

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    • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

      @Sassinake @nixCraft

      Could be there's already too much legislation in place protecting ISPs from having to do this stuff.

      I'd suspect its the same reason water finds the path of least resistance.

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      @contrasocial @nixCraft

      water, or oil.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

        Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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        @nixCraft

        although he is corporate democrat, so called "problem solver". are democrats planning loosing in 2026 and 2028. i don't like to support this kind trojan horse mass surveillance in the name of protecting kids.

        republicans are already bad as something, but this might make defending democrats more painful.

        these days i feel, that democrats want to be republicans instead of republicans.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

          Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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          @nixCraft the *verification* user journey:

          Age Verification -> Identity Verification -> Political Affiliation Verification -> Work Camp Verification

          Tech is getting infinitely more powerful and invasive. Leaving a power vaccum to be filled by power hungry organizations that can't resist.

          Ring of Sauron anyone? 💍💍💍

          The root cause has to be addressed... 🤔 Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.

          #antifa #europe #power #trump

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          • freevolt24@mastodon.socialF freevolt24@mastodon.social

            @nixCraft I'd say the idea is equivalent to asking for your ID on your doorstep to prevent kids from buying alcohol. Sounds like a good "child protection," eh?

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            @freevolt24
            Looks like a good analogy to me.

            @nixCraft
            #AgeVerification #ID #privacy

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

              Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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              @nixCraft

              ✋ uhmmm how is my oven going to verify the age of it's users? or my new gaming mouse that runs ZephyrOS?

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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                @nixCraft Why the fuck isn't this part of parental control on devices? When device boots for first time, it should ask who the user will be. Pick Child and lock it with custom PIN. Job fucking done.

                Instead they are going the entire other way hoarding user biometric data, images and IDs. All to "protect" children. Get the fuck off.

                Some claim this would expose children more. Um yeah, what does "unverified" does now? Same damn thing.

                This is so fucking stupid and everyone just went on board.

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                  Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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                  @nixCraft authoritarianism surveillance, the Stasi would be proud.

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                  • outsidecasey@mastodon.socialO outsidecasey@mastodon.social

                    @kodamachameleon @nixCraft it is social media vendor’s responsibility, that’s why they include in terms of service (to avoid liability). They are lobbying to shift it away from themselves.

                    All this is just large groups trying to offload risk. No one wants to hold this bag. The risk is too high. Which is entirely why it shouldn’t be done.

                    The fact that they are lobbying so hard to off load the responsibility is the giveaway that it’s a bad idea.

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                    @OutsideCasey @nixCraft which is why the bigger issue is government trying to be your parent. Personally, I’d like to see more resources go towards equiping parents/guardians than the government replacing them.

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                      Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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                      @nixCraft Can you share this over on Bluesky so I can share this with someone who isn't really active here on Mastodon?

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                      • earl@mast.john1126.comE earl@mast.john1126.com

                        @freevolt24
                        Looks like a good analogy to me.

                        @nixCraft
                        #AgeVerification #ID #privacy

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                        @Earl @freevolt24 @nixCraft I understand your point and your sentiment, but this picture seems to be AI slop.

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                        • jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ jcnotwit@mastodon.social

                          @nixCraft H. R. 8250 is going to be even worse than the state-level bills. While we don't have the text of the bill yet, Gottheimer's official statement explicitly says that OSs will have to *verify* age, and that self-reporting isn't enough. https://gottheimer.house.gov/posts/release-gottheimer-announces-bipartisan-parents-decide-act-to-protect-kids-online

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                          @jcnotwit @nixCraft
                          I’ve already had my identifying information stolen at least twice from breaches of companies which were supposed to keep it safe. Thanks, but no thanks. This is just another identity theft vector in the making.

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                          • capergrrl@mstdn.caC capergrrl@mstdn.ca

                            @Earl @freevolt24 @nixCraft I understand your point and your sentiment, but this picture seems to be AI slop.

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                            @capergrrl
                            The image is AI-generated, but the words are not, and were added by me to the image in Gimp.

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                            • earl@mast.john1126.comE earl@mast.john1126.com

                              @capergrrl
                              The image is AI-generated, but the words are not, and were added by me to the image in Gimp.

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                              @Earl @capergrrl When uploading images to the web, you should include descriptive alt text to ensure accessibility and clarity

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                                Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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                                @nixCraft

                                The scope of the corruption behind this must be huge.

                                American tech telling the globe that a corrupt politician, and his fossil fuel funded fascists, can dictate state surveillance adoption for everyone on the planet.

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                                What the Verdict Against Meta and Google Says About the Way We Live Now

                                Jeannie Suk Gersen on a California jury’s rewarding of damages in a lawsuit that found Meta and Google liable for a woman’s addiction to the social-media apps Instagram and YouTube.

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                                Meta and Google just lost a landmark social media addiction case. A tech law expert explains the fallout

                                The case was the first of its kind. But it won’t be the last.

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                                Instead of sucking it up over their lost lawsuit on negligence & public safety, Meta & Google are funded to get state surveillance embedded in every device.
                                https://techoversight.org/2025/07/29/bloomberg-meta-google-lobbyists-fight-to-pass-the-buck-on-kids-online-safety/

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  A New Bill proposes Federal Age Verification on any Operating Systems in entire U.S https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                                  Another slippery slope to target everyone, especially minority groups, and make their life hell under the name of protecting kids. If you want to protect kids, tell Meta, Google, & all other social media companies not to let kids usew the app. It is that simple. But Meta, who is behind the lobbying is niw shifting this burden to OS providers and targeting everyone on the planet.

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                                  @nixCraft

                                  If one can install Linux, they are of age.

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