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  • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    “You opened this page. It already knows the following.”

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    sempf@infosec.exchangeS layan2002@mastodon.socialL rustynail@floss.socialR liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE 22 Replies Last reply
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    • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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      sempf@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Migueldeicaza I know you knew the browser provided all of that before you opened the link. I did too.

      Were you still as freaked out as me, even though you knew it was gonna happen?

      offbeatmammal@mastodon.socialO isilzha314@infosec.exchangeI migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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      • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

        @Migueldeicaza I know you knew the browser provided all of that before you opened the link. I did too.

        Were you still as freaked out as me, even though you knew it was gonna happen?

        offbeatmammal@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Sempf @Migueldeicaza it's one thing knowing it, but quite another seeing it unfold in front of you. Experiencing it makes it more visceral

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        • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

          “You opened this page. It already knows the following.”

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          layan2002@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Migueldeicaza Hello friend, I know this might be appropriate, but could you support my post? I would be very grateful🤍🕊️

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          • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

            @Migueldeicaza I know you knew the browser provided all of that before you opened the link. I did too.

            Were you still as freaked out as me, even though you knew it was gonna happen?

            isilzha314@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Sempf

            @Migueldeicaza the gyroscope data through the browser is the one that freaks me out every time.

            you'd think over a decade of Niantic shenanigans would be the salient reminder

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            • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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              rustynail@floss.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Migueldeicaza funny thing, if I use an anti-fingerprinting browser and a vpn and stuff like that, most things this page tells me are fake, but there is another website called something like amiunique.org, which tells me that the combination of all the fake things about me can still uniquely identify me on the internet... at least among its other visitors I guess

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              • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                “You opened this page. It already knows the following.”

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                liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                Vivaldi was found wanting.
                Firefox was quite a bit better.
                Firefox Focus was basically the same.
                Surprisingly Cromite was the best overall.

                All, for whatever reason, reported the exact gyroscope position.

                My question is why the fuck do browsers even report this data

                officeplant@mastodon.socialO migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM 2ruth@mastodon.social2 3 Replies Last reply
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                • offbeatmammal@mastodon.socialO offbeatmammal@mastodon.social

                  @Sempf @Migueldeicaza it's one thing knowing it, but quite another seeing it unfold in front of you. Experiencing it makes it more visceral

                  sempf@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Offbeatmammal @Migueldeicaza This reminds me of showing developers how ineffective browser security controls are against an attacker. The developer knows that the browser is just talking to a backend server and that you can insert yourself between that space but it's very different seeing it.

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                  • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                    @Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                    Vivaldi was found wanting.
                    Firefox was quite a bit better.
                    Firefox Focus was basically the same.
                    Surprisingly Cromite was the best overall.

                    All, for whatever reason, reported the exact gyroscope position.

                    My question is why the fuck do browsers even report this data

                    officeplant@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @liquidparasyte @Migueldeicaza weird but nice to know that iOS and Safari are at least smart enough to block gyroscope and battery by default

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                    • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

                      @Migueldeicaza I know you knew the browser provided all of that before you opened the link. I did too.

                      Were you still as freaked out as me, even though you knew it was gonna happen?

                      migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Sempf I really loved the tone, typography and disclosure- such a. Rautiful way of presenting it 🙂

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                      • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                        @Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                        Vivaldi was found wanting.
                        Firefox was quite a bit better.
                        Firefox Focus was basically the same.
                        Surprisingly Cromite was the best overall.

                        All, for whatever reason, reported the exact gyroscope position.

                        My question is why the fuck do browsers even report this data

                        migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        migueldeicaza@mastodon.social
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                        @liquidparasyte not Safari 🙂

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                        • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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                          endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Migueldeicaza
                          > You have not enabled Do Not Track. This is the default. It means either that you chose not to, that you did not know it existed, or that you know it makes no difference. All three possibilities are informative.

                          Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

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                          • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

                            @Migueldeicaza
                            > You have not enabled Do Not Track. This is the default. It means either that you chose not to, that you did not know it existed, or that you know it makes no difference. All three possibilities are informative.

                            Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

                            aburka@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @EndlessMason @Migueldeicaza I'm pretty sure all of these statements were dreamed up by an llm

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                            • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

                              @Migueldeicaza
                              > You have not enabled Do Not Track. This is the default. It means either that you chose not to, that you did not know it existed, or that you know it makes no difference. All three possibilities are informative.

                              Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

                              endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Migueldeicaza
                              This actually reminds me of support scam and ads for virus checkers from the 90s web.

                              A big fat popup that says "we have copied all the files from your computer
                              <iframe src="file://C:\">" and like... lamo, i guess.

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                              • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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                                @Migueldeicaza AI slop site just learned what basic fingerprinting is

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                                • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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                                  @Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                                  It thinks I'm in london.

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                                  • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                                    @Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

                                    Vivaldi was found wanting.
                                    Firefox was quite a bit better.
                                    Firefox Focus was basically the same.
                                    Surprisingly Cromite was the best overall.

                                    All, for whatever reason, reported the exact gyroscope position.

                                    My question is why the fuck do browsers even report this data

                                    2ruth@mastodon.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @liquidparasyte @Migueldeicaza I'm on Firefox, and it got the gyroscope reading completely wrong. It also reported that I was in a town about 150 miles from here, and reckoned I'd touched the screen 612 times whilst scrolling through. Nonetheless, it's an eye opener in many ways

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                                    • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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                                      @Migueldeicaza it did not identify my browser correctly

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                                        @Migueldeicaza Is there a way to prevent this?

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                                        • migueldeicaza@mastodon.socialM migueldeicaza@mastodon.social

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                                          @Migueldeicaza it was off on my location by 600 miles

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