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  • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

    @fetchezlavache Just last week I for the first time noticed work chat messages in a 1-on-1 conversation where I am 100% sure the other side was cutting & pasting GPT responses into our chat.

    Surrounded by zombies.

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    @tsturm I noticed a few years ago that a contractor was sounding very strange in email conversations. Overy optimistic and extremely explainable for being a supposedly very buzy company. It was a very creepy way of talking for a swedish contractor so we didn't do much business with that company. I didn't realize it at the time but later I knew why I was having such a strange feeling.

    Later when looking back at the mails I'm 100% sure it was AI written. Because it said ChatGPT in hidden places.

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    • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

      Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

      It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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      @tsturm @cstross I’m in basically the same situation, plus getting a weekly email reminding me I have not activated my copilot pro license.

      If you have the option to simply ignore those polls, it could be the best strategy. I

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      • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

        Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

        It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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        syn_rst@norden.social
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        @tsturm
        I'd say there's a confirmation bias built-in.
        Providing even the option to officially state abstaining from the use of LLM-tools or even gaining "negative saving" by the use of these tools would contradict the image of LLMs being helpful and reshaping the workplace landscape.

        So, obviously, none of the people putting their names under multi-million - if not billion - dollar contracts licensing LLM models want to hear or read they made a wrong - and costly - decision.

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        • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

          Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

          It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

          fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tsturm "how much time you are saving a week".

          that survey tells you more about the people that set it, than the results will tell them.

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          • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

            Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

            It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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            @tsturm

            AI tools I use: Intellisense, compiler warnings

            Time saved per week: 0.25 hours with Intellisense, 0.75 with compiler warnings

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            • happyturtlethings@famichiki.jpH happyturtlethings@famichiki.jp

              @tsturm every day there comes a time i start wondering: who are these people? is my non-ai echo chamber this robust? who are these people?

              you hang in there, man. surely there's nothing stupid that comes out of entrusting one's decisionmaking and sanity to arbitrary code hallucinations, this is definitely the way of the future.

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              @happyturtlethings I'm not doing it until they literally tell me they'll fire me otherwise. And then I will use AI in the most ridiculous way possible, because fuck all of this.

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              • eq@mas.toE eq@mas.to

                @tsturm There were no option for negative saving because of fixing problems from your coworkers ai usage?

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                tsturm@famichiki.jp
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                @eq Nope. You ARE using AI and you ARE OBVIOUSLY saving dozens of hours every week. 🤷‍♂️

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                • krans@mastodon.me.ukK krans@mastodon.me.uk

                  @tsturm Same here

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                  @krans [non-AI fistbump]

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                  • eq@mas.toE eq@mas.to

                    @tsturm I noticed a few years ago that a contractor was sounding very strange in email conversations. Overy optimistic and extremely explainable for being a supposedly very buzy company. It was a very creepy way of talking for a swedish contractor so we didn't do much business with that company. I didn't realize it at the time but later I knew why I was having such a strange feeling.

                    Later when looking back at the mails I'm 100% sure it was AI written. Because it said ChatGPT in hidden places.

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                    tsturm@famichiki.jp
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                    @eq It's really weird - now that I fully suspect this coworker to use GPT for their answers, I don't want to interact with them and even just responding to these messages feels now like an insult.

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                    • S syn_rst@norden.social

                      @tsturm
                      I'd say there's a confirmation bias built-in.
                      Providing even the option to officially state abstaining from the use of LLM-tools or even gaining "negative saving" by the use of these tools would contradict the image of LLMs being helpful and reshaping the workplace landscape.

                      So, obviously, none of the people putting their names under multi-million - if not billion - dollar contracts licensing LLM models want to hear or read they made a wrong - and costly - decision.

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                      @syn_rst Yep, when this AI stuff doesn't work out, the top management will 100% blame their employees for just using the fantastic AI wrong.

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                      • fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.deF fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.de

                        @tsturm "how much time you are saving a week".

                        that survey tells you more about the people that set it, than the results will tell them.

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                        @fishidwardrobe "Please tell us that we didn't make a horrible mistake!"

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                        • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                          @tsturm

                          AI tools I use: Intellisense, compiler warnings

                          Time saved per week: 0.25 hours with Intellisense, 0.75 with compiler warnings

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                          @wakame Yep. Same. 😅

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                          • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                            @happyturtlethings I'm not doing it until they literally tell me they'll fire me otherwise. And then I will use AI in the most ridiculous way possible, because fuck all of this.

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                            @tsturm 10/10 approach. it's not even a hill to die on, just a hill from which to watch the trainwrecks.

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                            • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                              Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

                              It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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                              @tsturm

                              I have been getting random push surveys from various companies with the same deficit.

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                              • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                                Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

                                It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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                                @tsturm Yup, some people I know just had an AI course at work where they were asked to describe how it improves their work & there was no option to say "not at all"... It's insane, no business worth the tiniest amount of salt should act like this for anything.

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                                • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                                  Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

                                  It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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                                  @tsturm

                                  Stockholders only ask for the answers they want to hear.

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                                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                    @tsturm Yup, some people I know just had an AI course at work where they were asked to describe how it improves their work & there was no option to say "not at all"... It's insane, no business worth the tiniest amount of salt should act like this for anything.

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                                    @jwcph @tsturm

                                    Caution forbids my telling anyone my plan for avoiding the AI nonsense at work...

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                                    • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                                      Survey at work asks what AI tools one might be using and how much time I am saving per week. But there is no option to say I don’t use AI.

                                      It’s like in a sci-fi movie, when a crew member realizes they are the only one left that is not infected by the zombie plague.

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                                      @tsturm
                                      I've seen similar:
                                      How much time does AI save you per week?
                                      - 0-5 hours
                                      - 5-10 hours
                                      - 10+ hours

                                      No option for "AI actually slows me down because I have to spend more time dealing with everyone else's slop, and CI servers are backed up with the extra workloads."

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                                      • n1xnx@tilde.zoneN n1xnx@tilde.zone

                                        @jwcph @tsturm

                                        Caution forbids my telling anyone my plan for avoiding the AI nonsense at work...

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                                        @n1xnx @tsturm I've been completely open at work (where there's also a strong pro-AI policy 🙄😞 They pay me for the results I'm supposed to produce & AI isn't helping me do that, so if they make me use AI they take time away from my result-producing work, making me less valuable as an employee, while still paying my fairly generous hourly rate. So far it has kept management from insisting... 🤞

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                                        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                          @n1xnx @tsturm I've been completely open at work (where there's also a strong pro-AI policy 🙄😞 They pay me for the results I'm supposed to produce & AI isn't helping me do that, so if they make me use AI they take time away from my result-producing work, making me less valuable as an employee, while still paying my fairly generous hourly rate. So far it has kept management from insisting... 🤞

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                                          @jwcph @n1xnx I didn't have to have this conversation yet... we will see how it goes.

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