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  3. It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser.

It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser.

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  • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

    @julian @evan @rimu @ricferrer @trwnh I think handlers like this are an older desktop paradigm, on mobile we already have share sheets, and we’re sharing a url, to an app, what happens when the app receives the url is a client concern. Get the ActivityPub representation, and carry on as you would in the fedi (actor follow, or object like share, reply)!
    Desktop OS’ have already adopted this UX

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    @django @julian @evan @rimu @ricferrer now that i'm more awake, one other big concern is that fedcm means no privacy. so a browser or os solution like an extension or a share target is privacy-preserving. i don't think it's acceptable to make people say who they are just so like and share buttons can work. your identity should not be known to the site necessarily unless there's a very good reason (like reading private posts)

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      @strypey did we not start with exactly that? we're way past the point of acknowledging the pain point...

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      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

        This is AMAZING, Dan, and it would be a huge win. #ThankYouThankYouThankYou!!!

        @dansup @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu

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        @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu So I have a working proof of concept, using the Activity Intents FEP and a polyfill for software not yet supported.

        Want to work on this together?

        I will be getting the webintents.net website up shortly 😉

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        Attached: 1 image Introducing WebIntents: A universal follow button for the fediverse. Embed or link it anywhere. Click, enter your server, follow. Works with Mastodon, Emissary, Loops & more. Powered by @benpate's amazing Activity Intents FEP*. Coming soon. Calling all fediverse devs: let's collaborate and make this better together. ✨ https://webintents.net * - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

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        • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

          @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu So I have a working proof of concept, using the Activity Intents FEP and a polyfill for software not yet supported.

          Want to work on this together?

          I will be getting the webintents.net website up shortly 😉

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          Web Intents (@webintents@mastodon.social)

          Attached: 1 image Introducing WebIntents: A universal follow button for the fediverse. Embed or link it anywhere. Click, enter your server, follow. Works with Mastodon, Emissary, Loops & more. Powered by @benpate's amazing Activity Intents FEP*. Coming soon. Calling all fediverse devs: let's collaborate and make this better together. ✨ https://webintents.net * - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

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          @dansup @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu

          How to do ?

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          • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

            @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu So I have a working proof of concept, using the Activity Intents FEP and a polyfill for software not yet supported.

            Want to work on this together?

            I will be getting the webintents.net website up shortly 😉

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            Web Intents (@webintents@mastodon.social)

            Attached: 1 image Introducing WebIntents: A universal follow button for the fediverse. Embed or link it anywhere. Click, enter your server, follow. Works with Mastodon, Emissary, Loops & more. Powered by @benpate's amazing Activity Intents FEP*. Coming soon. Calling all fediverse devs: let's collaborate and make this better together. ✨ https://webintents.net * - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

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            #110

            Yes. I'm in.

            I've built similar buttons for Emissary, but they require too much server-side logic. I've been wanting to migrate the whole thing to client-side JS for some time, and make an easy widget that "webmasters" can drop on their pages.

            If you're interested, you're more than welcome to take the lead on this (I'm sooo full rn) and I'll do whatever you need to help out.

            And if you want to chat, let's jump on a video call 🙂

            @dansup @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

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            • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

              Yes. I'm in.

              I've built similar buttons for Emissary, but they require too much server-side logic. I've been wanting to migrate the whole thing to client-side JS for some time, and make an easy widget that "webmasters" can drop on their pages.

              If you're interested, you're more than welcome to take the lead on this (I'm sooo full rn) and I'll do whatever you need to help out.

              And if you want to chat, let's jump on a video call 🙂

              @dansup @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

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              @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

              Yes, for sure! I've already built a proof of concept, that I will get setup and ready to test on a video call.

              I even got the project website up: https://webintents.net

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              • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                @benpate what are your thoughts on matrix? I am considering using it in a product I am working on and would love to know why you don’t like it 🧐

                I’ve been testing Element X and haven’t found many issues.

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                @ricferrer

                While I do have some gripes with notifications and threaded discussions in the Element client…

                My loathing of Matrix is less about the technology, and more about having yet another place to follow discussions. I can only follow so many separate places to have discussions, and matrix doesn’t seem to add much value.

                I’d much rather try to make discussions work better HERE, instead of moving everything over to Matrix 😇

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                • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                  @ricferrer

                  While I do have some gripes with notifications and threaded discussions in the Element client…

                  My loathing of Matrix is less about the technology, and more about having yet another place to follow discussions. I can only follow so many separate places to have discussions, and matrix doesn’t seem to add much value.

                  I’d much rather try to make discussions work better HERE, instead of moving everything over to Matrix 😇

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                  @benpate yeah. I understand completely and I feel the same way that the space for communication tools is over saturated. But I do see a value in #matrix for private communication. Private/Direct #messenging in the fediverse is not good and I feel it would take a huge effort to fix it. At the same time there is in matrix already a separate solution that gives me hope about replacing #whatsapp #signal #telegram etc in a way that more aligns to my values and overlaps those of the fediverse.

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                  • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                    It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

                    I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

                    (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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                    @ricferrer

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                    • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                      It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

                      I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

                      (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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                      The ap:// URI-scheme won. 🙌🌈 it was my favorite anyways 💕#activitypub #fediverse

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                      • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                        It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

                        I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

                        (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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                        @ricferrer There is `acct:` for Webfinger from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7565

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