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Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time?

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  • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

    Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

    I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

    This is different from an earworm.

    @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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    @AncTreat5358 I think it is an autistic thing.

    I have the same kind of thing happening. It's like theme music for whatever is happening at the moment. as if my life is a musical or something -- sans dancing, sans ice...

    The tunes include every voice, every instrument, and sometimes additional instruments and voices.

    They get stuck in a loop in my head at times, especially when the tune has some impact or effect on me. When that happens, it could be stuck for days upon days, and won't change to something different at all.

    Other times, there's a playlist of tunes that play sequentailly and then go back to the beginning. Weird thing about that is that there are sometimes bumps and breaks for station IDs, etc.

    And then there is the music that I've never heard before, and gets stuck as well.

    I was a musician some time ago. I've been doing a bit from time to time lately.

    Perhaps you also are a musician or at the very least musically inclined.

    I think it is all different from an earworm, at least for the most part. It seems more like a recital or replay. Or a musical. Except for the original music. It does not affect functioning.

    @autistics

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    • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

      Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

      I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

      This is different from an earworm.

      @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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      @AncTreat5358 @autistics It's an AuDHD thing and also, apparently, some migraine sufferers experience it at as a prodromal symptom.

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      • davej@dice.campD davej@dice.camp

        @AncTreat5358 @autistics It's an AuDHD thing and also, apparently, some migraine sufferers experience it at as a prodromal symptom.

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        @davej @autistics Good to hear that tie-in. I'll have to do further research to find ways to cope/integrate that better to be less of a distraction.

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          @Tooden @autistics Neat; you described my experience to a "T". Nice to hear it was a proper attribution to being autistic/AuDHDer.

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          • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

            Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

            I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

            This is different from an earworm.

            @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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            @AncTreat5358 this a common experience for me, and as far as I know I do not have autism or ADHD. And although I love music, I am not musical and cannot carry a tune to save my life. I always attributed it as related to my inner monologue, which is practically constant 🤷🏻‍♀️

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            • tiamat271@mastodon.onlineT tiamat271@mastodon.online

              @AncTreat5358 this a common experience for me, and as far as I know I do not have autism or ADHD. And although I love music, I am not musical and cannot carry a tune to save my life. I always attributed it as related to my inner monologue, which is practically constant 🤷🏻‍♀️

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              @tiamat271 Thanks for sharing how it appears in your life, Jenny. ❣️

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              • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                This is different from an earworm.

                @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                @AncTreat5358
                I just call it my internal soundtrack.

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                • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                  Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                  I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                  This is different from an earworm.

                  @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                  @AncTreat5358 It's a form of what's called "involuntary cognition," and I think I remember reading once that it's related to processing in echolalia (what you describe happens to me, and I also grew up echolalic).

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                  • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                    Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                    I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                    This is different from an earworm.

                    @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                    @AncTreat5358 I have constant music, although my experience is a bit different, tends to be music I’ve heard recently, most of the time. Currently the jingle from a podcast I was just listening to, which is probably going to sing me to sleep now.

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                    • handmade_ghost@sunny.gardenH handmade_ghost@sunny.garden

                      @AncTreat5358 It's a form of what's called "involuntary cognition," and I think I remember reading once that it's related to processing in echolalia (what you describe happens to me, and I also grew up echolalic).

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                      @handmade_ghost Thanks for this helpful term, and for connecting it with echolalia. I'm less familiar with that just now, as I didn't think I met criteria for it.

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                      • lisamaesie@nutmeg.socialL lisamaesie@nutmeg.social

                        @AncTreat5358 I have constant music, although my experience is a bit different, tends to be music I’ve heard recently, most of the time. Currently the jingle from a podcast I was just listening to, which is probably going to sing me to sleep now.

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                        @lisamaesie Thanks for sharing how it presents for you, Lisa.

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                        • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                          Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                          I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                          This is different from an earworm.

                          @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                          @AncTreat5358 @autistics
                          I have this too. Not all the time, but very often. Sometimes, when I notice it consciously, I wonder what triggered that particular loop.

                          It might be fx. I said to myself “I feel happy today” and then the song “Oh happy day” will start looping.

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                            @AncTreat5358 @autistics
                            I have this too. Not all the time, but very often. Sometimes, when I notice it consciously, I wonder what triggered that particular loop.

                            It might be fx. I said to myself “I feel happy today” and then the song “Oh happy day” will start looping.

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                            @Trine_DK @autistics I hear what you're saying. And sometimes I don't realize I've shifted songs in my head, and then have to look back to try and discover what the trigger was for picking that specific one, just like you do.

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                            • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                              Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                              I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                              This is different from an earworm.

                              @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                              @AncTreat5358 @autistics I'm struggling to understand how this is any different from an earworm? An ear worm is just a song stuck in your head on repeat and people can be more or less prone to them. Often they relate to incomplete memory (the song doesn't complete and the brain basically just glitches and loops it)
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                              • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                                Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                                I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                                This is different from an earworm.

                                @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                                @AncTreat5358 Yep. I'm hearing ABC's "Poison Arrow" right now. Any moment of any day there's a tune playing in my head, though usually it's just a few bars on a loop. Mostly it's annoying, but sometimes it's nice to have my own background music. Seems like an autistic thing - I'm not much of a musician.

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                                • shiri@foggyminds.comS shiri@foggyminds.com
                                  @AncTreat5358 @autistics I'm struggling to understand how this is any different from an earworm? An ear worm is just a song stuck in your head on repeat and people can be more or less prone to them. Often they relate to incomplete memory (the song doesn't complete and the brain basically just glitches and loops it)
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                                  @shiri @autistics The distinction I was making is that earworms for me were prompted by something external, such as hearing a jingle or reading a memory post.

                                  Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Shiri.

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                                  • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                                    Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                                    I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                                    This is different from an earworm.

                                    @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                                    @AncTreat5358 Yes! It's been like that for most of my life! Sometimes it is so intense that it feels almost like the music was playing for real. But not like a delusion, I'm always sure it is just in my head. (np: Rocky Horror Picture Show - Time Warp )

                                    @autistics

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                                    • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                                      @shiri @autistics The distinction I was making is that earworms for me were prompted by something external, such as hearing a jingle or reading a memory post.

                                      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Shiri.

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                                      @AncTreat5358 @autistics Honestly I don't see much difference, I think half the time it's triggered externally and you forgot the moment it was triggered. The rest of the time it's random memory associations that are set off (which you'll extremely rarely notice).

                                      Hell, just reading this post about earworms gets them going in my head. And because thinking about earworms will make one go off it's unlikely you'll notice when you don't have one going because the mere fact of noticing cancels it out.

                                      Regardless, definitely not something autism specific.

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                                      • shiri@foggyminds.comS shiri@foggyminds.com

                                        @AncTreat5358 @autistics Honestly I don't see much difference, I think half the time it's triggered externally and you forgot the moment it was triggered. The rest of the time it's random memory associations that are set off (which you'll extremely rarely notice).

                                        Hell, just reading this post about earworms gets them going in my head. And because thinking about earworms will make one go off it's unlikely you'll notice when you don't have one going because the mere fact of noticing cancels it out.

                                        Regardless, definitely not something autism specific.

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                                        @shiri @autistics Thanks for your thoughts. Yeah, what I said could be a nuance that isn't complete.

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                                        • anctreat5358@lgbtqia.spaceA anctreat5358@lgbtqia.space

                                          Is it an autistic thing to have songs (not just words you hum to, but the tones and all of the singer, with all the pauses and intonations) going through your head nearly all the time? The specific song choice seems to be situational to what's going on with me right then. They will go on a loop for a while, until the next prompt switches the selection. And interestingly, it seems to be songs from decades ago, so maybe there's a component of my memory loss at play here?

                                          I can still function with this din going on, but I might be a bit more distracted.

                                          This is different from an earworm.

                                          @autistics #ActuallyAutistic #InternalMusic

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                                          @AncTreat5358 @autistics I can relate.

                                          I wonder to which degree it is the byproduct of hyper attention to our surroundings and a coping mechanism similar to special interests (I wrote about this recently in https://dev.to/raphink/the-constant-background-hum-hh7)

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