I'm wondering why people are praising the way you install apps on macOS.

[splendorr@mastodon.social]

@kgMadee2 @haeckerfelix @nclm they’ve broken / removed so many of those small A/V helpers, no doubt in service of a “cleaner UI”

so clean it makes no dang sense!

[metaning@mastodon.social]

@haeckerfelix @jvnknvlgl drag & drop has a clear and distinct audio cue on completion, and the accessibility option is for the menubar to flash.

[theevilskeleton@social.treehouse.systems]

@haeckerfelix nono, let Apple and Microsoft continue enshittifying their OS. Whatever makes the Linux desktop more attractive the better

[giantpinkrobots@mastodon.social]

@haeckerfelix In terms of its quality it's ahead of what you get on Google Play / App Store as well, imo.

[_nb@mamot.fr]

@haeckerfelix dmg files are a remnant of a distant macOS past, back when zip would fail to properly include the resource forks. This has been irrelevant for more than 20 years.

The proper way to distribute a mac app is:
- zip the app file
- have it detect that it’s running from ~/Downloads, and offer to move itself to /Applications.

And I’m saying this as someone whose daily job involved setting up dmg files with custom background and carefully positioned icons. But that was 20 years ago.

[gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno]

@haeckerfelix @nclm every time I see a new Mac user who has just installed some apps, they leave every single DMG mounted and they don't even shut down their computer as they're all Macbook users who would rather close the lid into standby every single time.

[yetzt@social.yetzt.me]

@haeckerfelix macos: apps are just "files". you copy them to your filesystem.

linux guy: everything is a file? who came up with this bonkers concept. thats way too uncomplicated for me to understand.

[mihamarkic@mastodon.social]

@haeckerfelix indeed, this way of installing apps on macos always baffled me. I guess brew helps a ton.

[bohwaz@mamot.fr]

@haeckerfelix
Another issue is that drag and drop is an action that can only be performed by advanced and valid people. Old people struggle with the difference between click and double click and often can't do drag and drop. Also it's not easily discoverable it's something you have to learn. So overall it's a bad UX.

[alvan@social.lol]

@haeckerfelix indeed. Even far-reaching software like OBS Studio works impressively good on flatpak nowadays.

[pfanzola@mastodon.social]

@haeckerfelix for now the only OSs that take advantage of this OTB are the universal blue ones.

On the others you have to deal with: what is flatpak/snap/rpm/deb/appimage? ecc ecc
even on fedora... (fedora flatpaks exists sadly)
which is not ideal for new users at all.

Hoping in future this will change!

[adamsdesk@fosstodon.org]

@haeckerfelix I say it's time to not care about Microsoft and Apple. They need to be left behind for there horrible products and services not to mention how awful the treat their customers.

[gabboman@gabboman.xyz]

@haeckerfelix@mastodon.social

you are omiting so many things and I have to wonder, are you using macos currently?

I have to say, its the same stuff with windows and linux. it does weird stuff, its just that we are used to all of it

[jernej__s@infosec.exchange]

@haeckerfelix @nclm They still do this? I remember when I brought some files on a USB drive to a Mac user, and after they finished copying it, they dragged the USB icon to trash, and I went "Don't!", because I thought they were going to erase the drive.