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If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

    If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

    The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

    Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

    VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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    @GossiTheDog ....

    .......

    and here I thought npm was bad. Sweet moldy cheezus on stale wonderbread with a radiator moonshine chaser and a frop stash full of ergot.

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    • stevel@hachyderm.ioS stevel@hachyderm.io

      @GossiTheDog its permanently trying to make you add extensions, and the whole "trust this directory" prompt mapping to "run any code in this external repo" feature seems designed to fun the north korean government.

      It's reasonably lightweight, but I don't trust it any more as even if I only use it for text editing, it's too willing to run code from external sources

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      @GossiTheDog in their favour: MSFT are showing how they've successfully implemented a cross-platform vulnerability ecosystem. ActiveX was windows only

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      • neffo@mas.toN neffo@mas.to

        @GossiTheDog @maccruiskeen is it pronounced corEnet or corPnet?

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        @neffo @GossiTheDog @maccruiskeen coreP0WNED

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

          If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

          The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

          Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

          VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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          @GossiTheDog

          Tried VScode, it was not really bad - except for my taste ate too much RAM, which becomes precious with all that AI and Browser-engine Apps.

          Still looking for something better than Notepad++ having:
          - low mem footprint
          - (relatively) fast
          - plugin/built-in support for couple languages I need

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

            If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

            The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

            Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

            VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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            @GossiTheDog Just got notified by regular old Visual Studio that there is an update 18.6.1 except there are no release notes for 18.6.1.

            So now I'm left wondering if this is a fix for a security flaw I should install right now or the result of a supply side attack facilitated by a security flaw I should definitely not install.

            Whichever is the truth, I'm sure the correct approach is to ask CoPilot what to do, right Microsoft?

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            • brnrd@bsd.networkB brnrd@bsd.network

              @GossiTheDog "how can you be so mean! We added a dialog bump 'do you trust this developer XiJinPing'"

              Same thing all over again, applications, consent dialogs, browser extensions, IDE plugins, ...
              Trusting that your users have sane judgement, prepare to mop!

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              @brnrd Seems like they pioneered this model back with ActiveX plugins:
              (A) trust this plugin to do anything it wants, even if it’s malicious,
              (B) don’t let this plugin do anything, no matter how useful
              (C) Maybe later (the 2020s enhanced version of this choice)

              @GossiTheDog

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Also - if you think 'none of our users run VSCode', check your telemetry. They do. It doesn't even need local admin rights to install.

                I've tooted about this one for about two years now, Microsoft have created their own security bonfire and it's going off in their own backyard, they just haven't realised yet.

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                @GossiTheDog Was a bit shocked, when I discovered it's just installed into the user's home directory.

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                • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

                  @GossiTheDog hell even opening a repo in vscode can cause code execution in multiple ways. It is basically impossible to use securely.

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                  GitHub - emilyselwood/self_deleting_repo: A repo that deletes it self when it opens in an editor.

                  A repo that deletes it self when it opens in an editor. - emilyselwood/self_deleting_repo

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                  GitHub (github.com)

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                  @emily_s @GossiTheDog sounds like this only happens when you trust the folder when it asks for permission. https://www.devclass.com/development/2026/01/22/vs-code-tasks-config-file-abused-to-run-malicious-code/4079547

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                  • binford2k@hachyderm.ioB binford2k@hachyderm.io

                    @emily_s @GossiTheDog sounds like this only happens when you trust the folder when it asks for permission. https://www.devclass.com/development/2026/01/22/vs-code-tasks-config-file-abused-to-run-malicious-code/4079547

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                    @binford2k @GossiTheDog yes... Do you know every single thing you need to check before clicking that button on a repo? Do you check all changes to all repos you've clicked that button on before you open your editor? Do you keep track of all changes to all of your plug-ins to check if they've added yet another way to trip this class of thing? (plugin's that silently update by default)

                    That button is entirely so lawyers can say "Well we warned you" and not actually provide any security.

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                    • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

                      @binford2k @GossiTheDog yes... Do you know every single thing you need to check before clicking that button on a repo? Do you check all changes to all repos you've clicked that button on before you open your editor? Do you keep track of all changes to all of your plug-ins to check if they've added yet another way to trip this class of thing? (plugin's that silently update by default)

                      That button is entirely so lawyers can say "Well we warned you" and not actually provide any security.

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                      @emily_s @GossiTheDog I’m just saying that if you open a freshly cloned repo and vscode says “yo dude, can this repo run some code?” and you say “hell yeah sounds like a great time, I trust that repo, run some code” then you shouldn’t be surprised when the repo runs some code.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

                        If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

                        The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

                        Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

                        VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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                        @GossiTheDog

                        And if you like me don’t use VS Code, don’t feel smug: our editors ($VIM, Emacs, etc.) don’t even have any marketplace and pull executable code from completely random places on the Internet (mostly GitHub, which we know how secure it is).

                        #Fail #NoSecurity

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

                          If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

                          The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

                          Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

                          VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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                          #40

                          @GossiTheDog
                          Nothing surprising here.

                          Microsoft traditionally has the MSDOS & Windows 3.11 security mindset, which only is replaced surgically with something better. But the default is no security.

                          Prove me wrong.

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                          • stevel@hachyderm.ioS stevel@hachyderm.io

                            @GossiTheDog in their favour: MSFT are showing how they've successfully implemented a cross-platform vulnerability ecosystem. ActiveX was windows only

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                            @stevel
                            Do you know my CEO colleague, he insists on positive formulations even if you just report the end of world. "And finally I've got an incredible deal at the end of the world sales for cloud resources for the period after the big rock will hit earth and exterminate all life more advanced than bacteria. Our year-end bonuses are safe!"

                            But yes active-x was unfairly windows only, we non windows users were discriminated against.
                            @GossiTheDog

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              @ingram you can probably install VSCode 😅

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                              @GossiTheDog
                              Not really, VSC let extensions bring their own binaries too, doesn't it?
                              @ingram

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                              • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                                @stevel
                                Do you know my CEO colleague, he insists on positive formulations even if you just report the end of world. "And finally I've got an incredible deal at the end of the world sales for cloud resources for the period after the big rock will hit earth and exterminate all life more advanced than bacteria. Our year-end bonuses are safe!"

                                But yes active-x was unfairly windows only, we non windows users were discriminated against.
                                @GossiTheDog

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                                @yacc143 @GossiTheDog did get an IE3 patch out to fix an ActiveX control vulnerability back in the late 90s, it was such an easy target.

                                Has anything that bad shipped between then and vs.code plugins? Doubtful. Flash and java applets were trying to run in sandboxes...
                                #cybersecurity

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                                • binford2k@hachyderm.ioB binford2k@hachyderm.io

                                  @emily_s @GossiTheDog I’m just saying that if you open a freshly cloned repo and vscode says “yo dude, can this repo run some code?” and you say “hell yeah sounds like a great time, I trust that repo, run some code” then you shouldn’t be surprised when the repo runs some code.

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                                  @binford2k
                                  Yeah the point is that it's an utterly bad design:

                                  So you have to blindly trust the workspace directory to "auto run" in undefined (because extensions can add/modify behaviour).

                                  Or you have to accept that a certain part of the functionality (again undefined) will be not working or working suboptimal.

                                  And there is literally no way to safely review: give me an overview what commands does this repo configure to run.

                                  The point is @emily_s @GossiTheDog

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                                  • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                                    @binford2k
                                    Yeah the point is that it's an utterly bad design:

                                    So you have to blindly trust the workspace directory to "auto run" in undefined (because extensions can add/modify behaviour).

                                    Or you have to accept that a certain part of the functionality (again undefined) will be not working or working suboptimal.

                                    And there is literally no way to safely review: give me an overview what commands does this repo configure to run.

                                    The point is @emily_s @GossiTheDog

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                                    some of these configuration is totally benign and makes sense, like LSP support etc (although just blindly configuring it, risks configuring tools that are not installed on the system, but that's another story).
                                    @emily_s @GossiTheDog @binford2k

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      RE: https://hachyderm.io/@ChrisShort/116606591908387955

                                      If you want on to Microsoft's internal network, CORPNET, publish or own an existing a VSCode extension.

                                      The Visual Studio Code Marketplace, which Microsoft own, is completely uncontrolled.

                                      Anybody can publish an extension, it provides code execution on endpoints, extensions auto update by default, "verified" blue tick extensions just need any domain registration, and there's no endpoint security controls at all around what users can install.

                                      VSCode is an absolute security shittip as a result.

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                                      @GossiTheDog Politicians do not understand complexity really, they are specialists in tapping into the vibes of public sentiment and then crafting rhetoric to get those vibes resonating in their preferred direction.

                                      Security is like this fractal mandelbrot surface of complexity where the more surface you generate or explore, the more vectors of attack there are. It's way too much for most people, and way too much for politicians who are only interested in what most people think.

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                                      • slashdottir@mastodon.onlineS slashdottir@mastodon.online

                                        @GossiTheDog Politicians do not understand complexity really, they are specialists in tapping into the vibes of public sentiment and then crafting rhetoric to get those vibes resonating in their preferred direction.

                                        Security is like this fractal mandelbrot surface of complexity where the more surface you generate or explore, the more vectors of attack there are. It's way too much for most people, and way too much for politicians who are only interested in what most people think.

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                                        @GossiTheDog Google is probably thinking how this will simplify their own job - no more worrying about malware or unsafe sites or anything. Users just poke the stochastic text machine and text is generated for them. No more spidering or security monitoring of websites needed. They are no doubt fantasizing about all the layoffs they can do

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                                        • slashdottir@mastodon.onlineS slashdottir@mastodon.online

                                          @GossiTheDog Google is probably thinking how this will simplify their own job - no more worrying about malware or unsafe sites or anything. Users just poke the stochastic text machine and text is generated for them. No more spidering or security monitoring of websites needed. They are no doubt fantasizing about all the layoffs they can do

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                                          @GossiTheDog My guess is if this is true, we might see them try to exit the browser space entirely... that might take a while though

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