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  3. Last year, someone (specifically, OUP) asked me to write an encyclopedia entry for "AI".

Last year, someone (specifically, OUP) asked me to write an encyclopedia entry for "AI".

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  • djl@mastodon.mit.eduD djl@mastodon.mit.edu

    @emilymbender

    AI _SHOULD_ be an approach to Cognitive Science. The parts af AI that aren't have nothing to do with intelligence.

    But, careful there. The folks doing domain modelling (Go, chess, protein folding, gradient decent) are reasonable comp. sci. stuff. (Although calling that stuff "AI" is completely ridiculous.)

    It's LLMs that are exactly and only parlor tricks.

    But the incredibly-stupidity-dense clusterfrack that AI has become is embarassing.

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    @djl

    Well, the original intent of the term was extremely dishonest, so I would argue that the modern appropriations of the term for dishonest ends are actually failry genuine, and it was the poor sods using it for genuine approaches who got fooled and used to provide the term with legitimacy.

    @emilymbender

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    • djl@mastodon.mit.eduD djl@mastodon.mit.edu

      @emilymbender

      AI _SHOULD_ be an approach to Cognitive Science. The parts af AI that aren't have nothing to do with intelligence.

      But, careful there. The folks doing domain modelling (Go, chess, protein folding, gradient decent) are reasonable comp. sci. stuff. (Although calling that stuff "AI" is completely ridiculous.)

      It's LLMs that are exactly and only parlor tricks.

      But the incredibly-stupidity-dense clusterfrack that AI has become is embarassing.

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      @djl @emilymbender that is not how words or definitions work.

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      • claudius@darmstadt.socialC claudius@darmstadt.social

        @djl @emilymbender that is not how words or definitions work.

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        @claudius Can you say more what you mean - I didn't understand what you mean / referring to.

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        • collective_truth@mastodon.socialC collective_truth@mastodon.social

          @claudius Can you say more what you mean - I didn't understand what you mean / referring to.

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          @collective_truth just because the stem word is "Intelligence" does not mean that everything combined with that word is exactly that. Or that one particular field of study should own it.

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            In the end, this was a fun project to work on, especially through the readings I got to revisit (and sometimes read for the first time) in the process.

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            @emilymbender Funny, I've previously thought, "But how do you formally define it?" Because in isolation, 'artificial' implies it's _not_ intelligence, rather than what it _is_.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              Last year, someone (specifically, OUP) asked me to write an encyclopedia entry for "AI". I've just finished reviewing the copy edits, so hopefully it will be in the world soon. Meanwhile, a teaser:

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              @emilymbender whenever I discuss “AI” I always make it clear that it is a marketing term.

              It is a way to obfuscate what the computer is actually doing, which when it’s not relying on probability, is mostly plagiarizing. When used for coding, it is doing database retrieval, often poorly.

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                "The term “AI” resists definition because it is continually reappropriated by people to mean different things. This, in turn, means that discussions of AI that do not provide working definitions for the purposes at hand risk incoherence. [...]

                Accordingly, this article does not provide a definition of the term “AI” but rather explores various ways in which the idea of AI has been used to organize how people understand our world, allocate resources, and relate to each other."

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                @emilymbender My view is that that *is* the definition of "AI": that which is used to deceive the public (esp. investors/financial class) into believing the machine is capable of doing human-like or far-fetched things it's not.

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