In my hippyish days, I used to believe, or at least hope, that expanding one's consciousness and opening the mind's eye could help most people be somehow better, you know?
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@HauntedOwlbear I think that *points at what Burning Man has turned into* it's that money corrupts more than just people
@DarkestKale Mmm, yeah. I glanced over in that direction a couple of years ago, read about the envronmental footprint of its current incarnation, and was at once disappointed and unsurprised.
There've always been a few specific tendencies that can flavour and push the needle on this stuff, and the one that's themed around being an accumulation deathcult has definitely done its thing.
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@DarkestKale Mmm, yeah. I glanced over in that direction a couple of years ago, read about the envronmental footprint of its current incarnation, and was at once disappointed and unsurprised.
There've always been a few specific tendencies that can flavour and push the needle on this stuff, and the one that's themed around being an accumulation deathcult has definitely done its thing.
@HauntedOwlbear I grew up with camping a fair bit (parents took us around Australia in one loooong holiday, plus a few shorter ones here or there, etc)
For me, camping is a tent + your food, and that's it. Caravan? sure, ok, if you like.
I know some folks who do generators and tvs and just... not my thing.
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@HauntedOwlbear the Dark Enlightenment movement is fucking weird.
Every so often I'll stumble onto the philosophies of silicon valley and eveerytime I feel like I need to take a shower.
@Bit_form Yeah, that whole Evola-descended fascist quasi-mysticism that Dugin and - less visibly esoteric but thematically all the way there - Yarvin promulgate are fundamentally bound up with a utopian vision that can exist only for the winners of an accellerationist race to the bottom, with social and environmental destruction as part of the fundamental game plan.
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In my hippyish days, I used to believe, or at least hope, that expanding one's consciousness and opening the mind's eye could help most people be somehow better, you know?
So if there's one thing the tech bros have taught me, it's that it's possible to do drugs wrong.
@HauntedOwlbear this reminds me of an old harry hutton post that's weirdly koan-esque
paraphrased: you are watching big brother. Two of its stars, the stupidest people in the world, are talking. Suddenly, a third walks in. Has the room become more, or less stupid? The mind wavers. Suddenly this is compelling.
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In my hippyish days, I used to believe, or at least hope, that expanding one's consciousness and opening the mind's eye could help most people be somehow better, you know?
So if there's one thing the tech bros have taught me, it's that it's possible to do drugs wrong.
@HauntedOwlbear oh yeah i have a meme for this
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@HauntedOwlbear this reminds me of an old harry hutton post that's weirdly koan-esque
paraphrased: you are watching big brother. Two of its stars, the stupidest people in the world, are talking. Suddenly, a third walks in. Has the room become more, or less stupid? The mind wavers. Suddenly this is compelling.
@sinvega I thought about this hard for a second there and briefly experienced gnosis.
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In my hippyish days, I used to believe, or at least hope, that expanding one's consciousness and opening the mind's eye could help most people be somehow better, you know?
So if there's one thing the tech bros have taught me, it's that it's possible to do drugs wrong.
@HauntedOwlbear I like the idea of Timothy Leary coming back from the dead and saying "no, not like that"
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@Bit_form Yeah, that whole Evola-descended fascist quasi-mysticism that Dugin and - less visibly esoteric but thematically all the way there - Yarvin promulgate are fundamentally bound up with a utopian vision that can exist only for the winners of an accellerationist race to the bottom, with social and environmental destruction as part of the fundamental game plan.
the behaviour of tech-bros / drug-bros (even at the lower levels) especially since the 2010s is why we are likely doomed to have /some/ level of prohibition for the foreseeable future
In my country they even fucked up a "legal" drugs market with new psychoactive substances the then government was initially turning a blind eye to, as folk couldn't self-regulate and put too much burden on the health/social care/emergency services when they overdid things (also too many people were driving under the influence which was causing carnage on the roads)
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@HauntedOwlbear this reminds me of an old harry hutton post that's weirdly koan-esque
paraphrased: you are watching big brother. Two of its stars, the stupidest people in the world, are talking. Suddenly, a third walks in. Has the room become more, or less stupid? The mind wavers. Suddenly this is compelling.
@sinvega @HauntedOwlbear
The answer is Yes. The room has become, more or less, stupid -
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@HauntedOwlbear I like the idea of Timothy Leary coming back from the dead and saying "no, not like that"
@hohokam @HauntedOwlbear Dr. Leary says 'no, like this"
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