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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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      @everton137
      I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out πŸ˜† (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

      shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS _elena@mastodon.social_ klappspatack@troet.cafeK luca@sironi.xyzL 4 Replies Last reply
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      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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        engel@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @everton137 am i crazy for not wanting this to happen. the Fediverse is so cozy rn

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        • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

          @everton137
          I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out πŸ˜† (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

          shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @CarineMissiaen @everton137 welcome here, you will get the hang of it!
          Ignore global timeline. Follow some hashtags you like, one popular on is #Caturday

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          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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            Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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            @everton137 At the risk of being the stereotypical "reply guy", sample size of one post can have misleading results. πŸ™‚

            Amount of boosts/reposts for any given post is as much about having a good message and enough followers, as well as about pure luck, since most people's feeds are moving quickly, and they do not spend all their time glued to their social apps.

            It seems weird that Bluesky, whose raison d'etre was "Twitter, but not evil" would have users this disinterested in this topic. 🀷

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            • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

              After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

              I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

              If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

              Link Preview Image
              Leave X - Protect Democracy (@leavex@mastodon.social)

              Attached: 1 image Make fascism socially unacceptable again. Leave X. #LeaveX #JohnOliver #fascim #FarRight #Disinformation #HateSpeech #Democracy

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              Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

              #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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              @everton137 the motivation behind all these "visibility metrics" is well known. Maybe we should just stop focusing only on these numbers?

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              • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                @everton137
                I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out πŸ˜† (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

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                @CarineMissiaen welcome Carine!

                Quick question: what are you using to browse Mastodon? Which OS are you on?

                For desktop computers I would recommend https://Phanpy.social (its Catch Up feature is the best of any web client across all social media IMHO).

                On iOS I use @ivory - who used the make the excellent Tweetbot and the experience is similar.

                Feel free to reach out if you need any help!

                @everton137

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                • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                  @everton137 At the risk of being the stereotypical "reply guy", sample size of one post can have misleading results. πŸ™‚

                  Amount of boosts/reposts for any given post is as much about having a good message and enough followers, as well as about pure luck, since most people's feeds are moving quickly, and they do not spend all their time glued to their social apps.

                  It seems weird that Bluesky, whose raison d'etre was "Twitter, but not evil" would have users this disinterested in this topic. 🀷

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ticho fair but the lack of engagement on Bluesky is truly shocking. Casey Newton has 250k followers there and when he shares one of his articles he may get something like 15 boosts (like, the latest article he shared). Yes 15, not 150.

                  I got 400 boosts on Mastodon the last time I shared a link.

                  I had a Bluesky account with 1.1k followers and zero interactions. Ditto for Fedi friends who have 6k followers there.

                  It's a thing.

                  @everton137

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @ticho fair but the lack of engagement on Bluesky is truly shocking. Casey Newton has 250k followers there and when he shares one of his articles he may get something like 15 boosts (like, the latest article he shared). Yes 15, not 150.

                    I got 400 boosts on Mastodon the last time I shared a link.

                    I had a Bluesky account with 1.1k followers and zero interactions. Ditto for Fedi friends who have 6k followers there.

                    It's a thing.

                    @everton137

                    ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @_elena @everton137 Maybe Bluesky has a completely different "usage culture"

                    More passive consumption and less interaction.

                    More uni-directional broadcasting from "content creators" to "consumers", and less conversation?

                    But hm, that would explain fewer replies, but probably not fewer reposts and likes.

                    Being no expert, it really seems very strange. Maybe Bluesky is just dead and full of bot squads which only allow certain kinds of messaging to go viral? I hope not!

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                    • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                      @_elena @everton137 Maybe Bluesky has a completely different "usage culture"

                      More passive consumption and less interaction.

                      More uni-directional broadcasting from "content creators" to "consumers", and less conversation?

                      But hm, that would explain fewer replies, but probably not fewer reposts and likes.

                      Being no expert, it really seems very strange. Maybe Bluesky is just dead and full of bot squads which only allow certain kinds of messaging to go viral? I hope not!

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                      @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

                      @everton137

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                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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                        @everton137
                        I'm no expert. But could it be a difference between a platform that uses an algorithm and one that doesn't?

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                        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                          Link Preview Image
                          Leave X - Protect Democracy (@leavex@mastodon.social)

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                          @everton137
                          I get no shares or likes on either lol

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

                            @everton137

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                            @_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.

                            CC: @ticho @everton137

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                            • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                              @everton137
                              I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out πŸ˜† (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

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                              @CarineMissiaen @everton137 Howdy πŸ‘‹. Here is "Mastodon in 180 seconds". A very good explanation on what is different here. And it gives a good guide on how to start πŸ‘

                              Mastodon in 180 Seconds 🐘

                              Lately, everyone seems to be trying to jump ship from Twitter to this new thing called "Mastodon". But when they do it, the first thing many of them say is "I don't get Mastodon. How does it work?"...

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                                @thomas_klopf @everton137

                                i'ts not possible for me to disagree with you more

                                essentially what you are doing is surrendering the mass of society to plutocrat manipulation and control

                                of course we don't want bigots here. and moderation will nuke them

                                but otherwise we want as many people as possible on mastodon

                                and frankly, if you disagree, you are foolish

                                are you really happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg?

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                                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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                                  The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

                                  I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

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                                  • engel@mastodon.socialE engel@mastodon.social

                                    @everton137 am i crazy for not wanting this to happen. the Fediverse is so cozy rn

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                                    @engel @everton137

                                    yes

                                    because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

                                    are you really happy with that idea?

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                                    • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

                                      @_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.

                                      CC: @ticho @everton137

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                                      @gelbphoenix πŸ’― @ticho @everton137

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                                      • gabboman@gabboman.xyzG gabboman@gabboman.xyz

                                        The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

                                        I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

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                                        @gabboman may you share an example to have an idea what bomb on BlueSky?

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                                        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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                                          @everton137

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