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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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    @everton137 Marketing likes classical social media, because it serves statistics on engagement: how many people saw your post, how much time they spent, etc... You have not seen these statistics because you need an advertiser's account.
    It is something they can give to their bosses to show that they worked hard.
    Mastodon does not offer that. Marketing will not use it.
    Which is a good thing.

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    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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      Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

      netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @everton137 most of those other people, suck.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @engel @everton137

        yes

        because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

        are you really happy with that idea?

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        #32

        @benroyce @engel @everton137

        From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

        It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

        Am I wrong on this point?

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        • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

          @everton137
          I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out 😆 (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

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          #33

          @CarineMissiaen @everton137

          hello Carine,
          at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

          What you consider less intuitive ?

          If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

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          • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

            @benroyce @engel @everton137

            From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

            It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

            Am I wrong on this point?

            john@vyrse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel @everton137

            I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.

            Follow nobody, get nothing.
            Spend a little time building you follow lists?
            Value and fun ensue.

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            • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

              After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

              I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

              If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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              #35

              @everton137

              I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

              there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

              anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

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              • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

                @benroyce @engel @everton137

                From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

                It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

                Am I wrong on this point?

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #36

                @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

                as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

                so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                  not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

                  as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

                  so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

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                  @benroyce
                  It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

                  @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

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                  • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                    @benroyce
                    It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

                    @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

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                    @xinit @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                    exactly

                    the whole topic is a nontopic

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                    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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                      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                      #39

                      @everton137 I have no faith that there is fair content surfacing in an ecosystem where all the following factors are true:
                      A. Algorithmic feeds
                      B. VC / Advertising based funding
                      C. Platforming and verifying fascists

                      A + B + C = Content Supression. Every time. There's incentive to squelch who fascists dont like.

                      Posting in for profit spaces who accept the money and/or social brand reach of fascists is akin to trying to get the word out by yelling while someone covers your face with a pillow. Yelling in a pillow can be cathardic, but no one else is gonna hear.

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                      • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                        @everton137

                        I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

                        there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

                        anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

                        collette@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #40

                        @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

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                        • collette@mastodon.socialC collette@mastodon.social

                          @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

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                          #41

                          @collette alright, yes - the discover tab.
                          but it's not mandatory.

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                          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

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                            Leave X - Protect Democracy (@leavex@mastodon.social)

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                            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                            @everton137 Never make the mistake of interpreting metrics as reach rather than pillory.
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