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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

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  • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

    @mcc what's missing is a #Google-free #Android-Fork beyond a mere #ROM.

    - #LineageOS is close but not quite and #GrapheneOS are too busy appeasing #Cyberfascists with *"#DeviceAttestation"* aka. #Malware features…

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    @kkarhan @mcc I'm using a Fairphone 4 running e/OS/ which appears to be utterly Gargoyle-free unless I install the wrong apps from "All lounge".

    It was more hard work to set up than a typical big name Android phone, but most things are covered, although I haven't found a decent NFC payment app yet--Curve has currently had 6,746 attempts blocked by e/OS/, which regards them as attempted data leaks.

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

      macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @mcc I can see schools upgrading to these without so much as a second thought about surveillance or primacy of the students.

      As for alternatives to Android? Some have mentioned installing GrapheneOS on an older model Android, some have suggested Linux, Kali or Tails specifically. Others have suggested a more old school dumb flip phone.

      The more advanced the world has gotten, the crucial it is to keep old school or alt means of communication alive.

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      • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

        @mcc what's missing is a #Google-free #Android-Fork beyond a mere #ROM.

        - #LineageOS is close but not quite and #GrapheneOS are too busy appeasing #Cyberfascists with *"#DeviceAttestation"* aka. #Malware features…

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        #16

        @kkarhan @mcc

        What's wrong with GrapheneOS now?

        kkarhan@c.imK wrath0110@mastodon.socialW secret_squirrel@mastodon.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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        • dreamos82@mastodon.worldD dreamos82@mastodon.world

          @mcc every new news about android, make me think preordering the new jolla phone with sailfish os my best choice of 2026 🙂

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          #17

          @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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            @mcc@mastodon.social Google seems hell bent on destroying everything that people switched to them for.

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            • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

              @kkarhan @mcc

              What's wrong with GrapheneOS now?

              kkarhan@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @jrdepriest @mcc the whole "Device Attestation" shite and them choosing to go with Motorola, which are so #AntiRepairDesign that they argue with @EUCommission about the #EU-wide #SupportDuration…

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              • rupertreynolds@hachyderm.ioR rupertreynolds@hachyderm.io

                @kkarhan @mcc I'm using a Fairphone 4 running e/OS/ which appears to be utterly Gargoyle-free unless I install the wrong apps from "All lounge".

                It was more hard work to set up than a typical big name Android phone, but most things are covered, although I haven't found a decent NFC payment app yet--Curve has currently had 6,746 attempts blocked by e/OS/, which regards them as attempted data leaks.

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                #20

                @RupertReynolds @mcc that's due to the bullshit #App developers due under the false pretense of "#PCIDSS compliance"…

                - Personally, I'd use #Monerujo (and thus #Monero) for cashless payments…

                favicon

                (monerujo.app)

                But that shit is so good, it's being criminalized!

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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                  @mcc I wish there was a third phone.

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                    #22

                    @otte_homan @mcc the state is fundamentally part of the problem.

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                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                      @mcc I wish there was a third phone.

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                      @xgranade @mcc I am unironically considering getting the Barbie phone (US version). It’s apparently a pretty good device for a feature phone. Plus…pink!

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                        #24

                        > Gemini’s helpfulness right to your fingertips, quite literally. Just wiggle your cursor and watch it come alive with Gemini

                        At last, a device offering "look at the screen to activate the LLM"

                        > You can tap a phone app, get that order out quickly and get back to it. Or if you get a reminder for your daily Duolingo language lesson, you can pop over and finish it without ever leaving your screen. It just works.

                        Wow, multitasking on a laptop?! Sign me up!

                        @mcc

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                          @mcc I'm sure others already did it, but I'm at the point of deleting all my gmail accounts. I'm done with this.

                          Google can eat a dick straight up!

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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                            @mcc so I am not so smart about things, but I saw that gemini offered to write my emails, I declined. For my personal emails I use Protonmail but have one google spam email and one for simple things to not have flood my protonmail. I have Gemini on my desk top. Does that mean they see everything I do? I wonder if I should change my browser on desktop.

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                              One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                              @mcc Leaving aside the other considerations...

                              "Just wiggle your cursor and watch it come alive with Gemini, offering quick, contextual suggestions every time you point at something on your screen."

                              That just sounds like a usability nightmare. I do not want a flood of popups every time I jiggle my cursor.

                              What a stupid dystopia we're living in.

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                @mcc
                                Good grief! ☹️ I"m already struggling with these touch screen devices. It's hard to even hold the phone securely without ever so lightly touching it and launching some unintended action.

                                Now this new Googlebook sounds like the system will go one step farther. It's going to decide what I want to do even when I'm navigating the screen under complete control, trying to do something else.

                                I'm was a command line guy-- years of working as a Unix/Linux administrator. I'm accustomed to giving instructions to my computer, not the other way around.

                                But since I retired several years ago, I feel like computer software and hardware design has raced light years ahead of my ability to comprehend.

                                I've literally gone from configuring UUCP to transfer data between hard wired systems to now transferring text messages to friends by voice command over wireless networks. I remember when every system on the Internet (Arpanet in those days) had to be listed line by line in a text file that everyone had to download.

                                Instead of buying a Googlebook, maybe I'll go dust off my old IBM ThinkPad, install some Linux distro and just enjoy the good old days. 😔

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                  One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                  @mcc Gee, anyone remember long ago, when the google would was a new thing, and they would proudly spew their core belief of "do no wrong"?

                                  I sure do.

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                    One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                    @mcc listen when people tell you things.

                                    “Introducing Googlebook, designed for Gemini Intelligence”

                                    This wasn’t designed to make your life easier. It was designed to bring you to their product.

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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                                      @mcc I assume the boot loader will be locked in such a way we can't replace the OS with anything useful, as well, so that'll be great.

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                        @mcc I wonder how locked down the hardware will be. In a couple of years, maybe these things will be cheap, and they can be wiped and have Linux installed on them.

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                                        • unlikelylass@mspsocial.netU unlikelylass@mspsocial.net

                                          @mcc I assume the boot loader will be locked in such a way we can't replace the OS with anything useful, as well, so that'll be great.

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                                          @Unlikelylass @mcc They already say you need to also have an android 17+ phone, so....

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