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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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    @Natasha_Jay @mtriclot

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      @Natasha_Jay after 3 months, someone asks to double check ...

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      • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

        @Natasha_Jay

        The game of "passing the buck" on this one will be interesting. Hopefully those numbers are at least approximately correct.

        bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @simonzerafa @Natasha_Jay

        That last line doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, though.

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        • nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Natasha_Jay Ouch! It has literally been sculpted to behave like an extreme people pleaser. Just like humans, we so readily circumvent the truth to please others.

          That this is at the deep root of how AI works should alone destroy all but checked usage when honest stats are vital.

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          • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

            @simonzerafa @Natasha_Jay

            That last line doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, though.

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            @bruce @Natasha_Jay

            No, I do wonder that there might be a fraud investigation shortly.

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            • colinstu@birdbutt.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Natasha_Jay @pojntfx it’s scary the number of “accountants” I heard say they just dump their Excel sheets into an LLM and it shits out some amazing final thing/result.

              Needless to say I stop talking to these people once I find that out.

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                @Natasha_Jay

                Obviously, whoever authorised the implementation should be sacked for failure of due diligence.

                In a previous life though, I remember talking to someone about their data. "Is this accurate?" I asked. "It's plausible" was the response. A discussion followed around a viewpoint that it isn't actually cheating if you know everyone else is cheating in the same way. Which is why it makes sense not to believe that the figures issued by any organisation are completely accurate, they'll often be presented in a way that supports a particular narrative.

                Which isn't what you were talking about, but it did remind me, sorry! 😊

                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                  @grepe @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay just very difficult to justify marketing spent.

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                    @Natasha_Jay #WhereIsMySurprisedFace

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                      @Natasha_Jay as an executive manager, I'd rather rely on hallucinated data than on data intentionally made up by humans.

                      'Any random number is better than a forged number.' Not 'good', but better than the worst.

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                        @Natasha_Jay note the complete absence of gasps following that statement

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                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                          @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                          By the way, always delighted to see what is to my understanding a classic prank Auzzies play on tourists

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                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                          Unconnected but I did once use “Drop Bear” as a murder weapon in a supers RPG where the assassin had animal control and a pet koala.

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                          • averagedog@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Natasha_Jay So the jobs of the VP and CFO were useless to begin with? I'm not surprised.

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                              @Natasha_Jay just a reminder that an IAgen doesn’t tell the truth. It tells a plausible answer. That’s what « generative » stands for.

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                                @Natasha_Jay Hallucinating is still the wrong word, it's a needless anthropomorphism, they are simply invented numbers...

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                                  @Natasha_Jay This reminds me of this post - sorry no link - where some talked about introducing CoPilot into his company, for 1000 people, when only 7 people use it actively and he boss can now say that they are AI-enabled company!

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                                    @Natasha_Jay
                                    I am sure that, as usual, this will be used as an argument against AI, not as one against Natural_I.

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                                    • casparvdburgh@mastodon.socialC casparvdburgh@mastodon.social

                                      @Natasha_Jay note the complete absence of gasps following that statement

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                                      @casparvdburgh @Natasha_Jay

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                                      • fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF fragarach@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @Natasha_Jay

                                        Obviously, whoever authorised the implementation should be sacked for failure of due diligence.

                                        In a previous life though, I remember talking to someone about their data. "Is this accurate?" I asked. "It's plausible" was the response. A discussion followed around a viewpoint that it isn't actually cheating if you know everyone else is cheating in the same way. Which is why it makes sense not to believe that the figures issued by any organisation are completely accurate, they'll often be presented in a way that supports a particular narrative.

                                        Which isn't what you were talking about, but it did remind me, sorry! 😊

                                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

                                        timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @Fragarach @Natasha_Jay "it isn't actually cheating if you know everyone else is cheating in the same way"

                                        Which is why anyone who might eventually be prosecuted as a result of being a customer of the Epstein child rape gang is going to feel singled out and hard done by.

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                                        • bit@ohai.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Natasha_Jay No one could have predicted this.

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