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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

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  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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    @alexhaist I'm fine as far as 1300, but further back is opaque. I find that those last couple of centuries, 1300 and 1400, become vastly more accessible if (a) written in modern orthography and (b) read aloud.

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    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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      How far back in time can you understand English?

      An experiment in language change

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      @alexhaist Wow. I barely read the 1500 text 😅

      My boyfriend however, an English philologist, recognised all the things he learned at the university! 😂

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      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

        This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

        In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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        How far back in time can you understand English?

        An experiment in language change

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        @alexhaist
        1200 is more guessing than reading.
        🧝 : "The languages of humans are many, and they change faster than a dragon flies."

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        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

          I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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          @alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.

          Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.

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          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

            This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

            In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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            How far back in time can you understand English?

            An experiment in language change

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            @alexhaist

            This is excellent and yes, 1300 for me was when I tapped out

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            • wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW wizardofdocs@wandering.shop

              @dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
              Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.

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              @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

              Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

              so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

              EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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              • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                @danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.

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                @alexhaist @danmccullough I'm kind of a dictionary, reference hoarder. Probably no surprise to some who follow me...

                Came across "The English Dialect Dictionary" on Archive a few years ago. It's a six volume set. Kinda nifty if you're into this sort of stuff🙂

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                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                  An experiment in language change

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                  @alexhaist Thanks for sharing this, especially since it has this great explanation at the end about u and v etc...
                  As a non-native speaker I thought "Cool, 1900 is using more commas. Kinda like I'd do it in German". Then in 1800 I thought "woah, stop it with the commas please!" 🙂

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                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                    An experiment in language change

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                    @alexhaist

                    Just reminds me how badly I did with the relevant chapter of Ulysses, and how long I had to skim before I got to anything I could read.

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                    • dgold@goblin.technologyD dgold@goblin.technology

                      @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

                      Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

                      so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

                      EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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                      @dgold @alexhaist awuuuuuuluv

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                      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                        This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                        In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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                        How far back in time can you understand English?

                        An experiment in language change

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                        @alexhaist

                        Thanks for posting this.

                        I finally got all of the 1300s. The word rewþe (reuth) was difficult. I suspected it meant compassion and that it's where our word ruthless comes from. I just looked it up and it is. My only real training in English is from reading Shakespeare and that helped.

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                        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                          @forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)

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                          @alexhaist

                          1300 - easy
                          1200 - work, possible
                          1100 - work, maybe 25-30% but only in parts; enough to fake a two sentence summary
                          1000 - hard work, maybe 15-20%; enough to feel like I should be able to understand more but not enough to fake a two sentence summary

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                          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                            This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                            In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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                            How far back in time can you understand English?

                            An experiment in language change

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                            (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                            @alexhaist
                            Not a native speaker but I think it helps that German is my mother tongue.

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                            • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                              This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                              In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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                              How far back in time can you understand English?

                              An experiment in language change

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                              (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                              Gibt es eine vergleichbare Seite mit "wie weit zurück, über die vergangenen Jahrhunderte, verstehst du die deutsche Sprache(n)?

                              #Deutsch #Linguistik

                              RE: https://wandering.shop/@alexhaist/116115352037262849
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