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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

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  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

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    I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

    jerzone@techhub.socialJ forestfjord@wandering.shopF G dgold@goblin.technologyD mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM 5 Replies Last reply
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    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

      I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

      jerzone@techhub.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      jerzone@techhub.social
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      @alexhaist I was just generally puzzled in my 20's.

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      • jerzone@techhub.socialJ jerzone@techhub.social

        @alexhaist I was just generally puzzled in my 20's.

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        alexhaist@wandering.shop
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        @jerzone I mean, me, too, but I was trying to figure it out with a medieval studies degree

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        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

          I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

          forestfjord@wandering.shopF This user is from outside of this forum
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          forestfjord@wandering.shop
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          @alexhaist

          (Un)Surprisingly, competent Germanic skills (all the Nordics + Dutch) helps a lot with very old English. I don't understand as much as I'd like, but significantly more compared to in my early 20's when I "just" had linguistics skills

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          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

            @jerzone I mean, me, too, but I was trying to figure it out with a medieval studies degree

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            jerzone@techhub.social
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            @alexhaist Between 1200 and 1100 it seems like they changed topic completely.

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            • forestfjord@wandering.shopF forestfjord@wandering.shop

              @alexhaist

              (Un)Surprisingly, competent Germanic skills (all the Nordics + Dutch) helps a lot with very old English. I don't understand as much as I'd like, but significantly more compared to in my early 20's when I "just" had linguistics skills

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              @forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)

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              • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                Link Preview Image
                How far back in time can you understand English?

                An experiment in language change

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                (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

                danmccullough@ecoevo.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                danmccullough@ecoevo.social
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                @alexhaist This will be great fun to read in the blizzard tomorrow. Thanks!

                Oh, and “for neuer in al my lyf hadde I beholden so foule a creature.”

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                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                  I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                  gaptangle@dragonscave.space
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                  @alexhaist At 1200 I was lost. I got the sense with a Braille display and some gnawing I might have been able to figure out some of that one, but that's probably where it would have ended.

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                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                    I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                    @alexhaist

                    Allas! I scholde neuer hauen icumen to þis toune of Wuluesfleete!

                    I know I should be able to read the 1100, and while finding I can read it aloud, the meaning of it has entirely escaped me in my dotage.

                    So 1200 is the last I can manage sensibly, and that much did I enjoy greatly.

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                    • G gaptangle@dragonscave.space

                      @alexhaist At 1200 I was lost. I got the sense with a Braille display and some gnawing I might have been able to figure out some of that one, but that's probably where it would have ended.

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                      @Gaptangle oh wow! I was thoroughly lost by then.

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                      • danmccullough@ecoevo.socialD danmccullough@ecoevo.social

                        @alexhaist This will be great fun to read in the blizzard tomorrow. Thanks!

                        Oh, and “for neuer in al my lyf hadde I beholden so foule a creature.”

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                        @danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.

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                        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                          @Gaptangle oh wow! I was thoroughly lost by then.

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                          @alexhaist At one point I had learned a chunk of German and a tiny bit of French, and don't recall enough of either now to have a conversation but some of the old structure is still sitting rusty in my brain. Comparing all of them and recognizing sources of phrasing or spelling can help with that if I have the Braille. Screenreaders of course with their modern English pronunciation rules wreck it all lol.

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                          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                            This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                            In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                            Link Preview Image
                            How far back in time can you understand English?

                            An experiment in language change

                            favicon

                            (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                            @alexhaist by 1600 I'm reading aloud out of necessity.
                            By 1300 I'm struggling.
                            1200 I can get the gist of with the help of my linguistics degree.
                            Past that it's all just German to me.

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                            • dgold@goblin.technologyD dgold@goblin.technology

                              @alexhaist

                              Allas! I scholde neuer hauen icumen to þis toune of Wuluesfleete!

                              I know I should be able to read the 1100, and while finding I can read it aloud, the meaning of it has entirely escaped me in my dotage.

                              So 1200 is the last I can manage sensibly, and that much did I enjoy greatly.

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                              @dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
                              Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.

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                              • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                Link Preview Image
                                How far back in time can you understand English?

                                An experiment in language change

                                favicon

                                (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                                @alexhaist
                                Thanks for posting! (I made it through 1400, with a smidgen of 1300’s.)

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                                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                                  An experiment in language change

                                  favicon

                                  (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                                  @alexhaist I'm fine as far as 1300, but further back is opaque. I find that those last couple of centuries, 1300 and 1400, become vastly more accessible if (a) written in modern orthography and (b) read aloud.

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                                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                                    An experiment in language change

                                    favicon

                                    (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                                    andrewblasco@masto.es
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                                    @alexhaist Wow. I barely read the 1500 text 😅

                                    My boyfriend however, an English philologist, recognised all the things he learned at the university! 😂

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                                    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                                      An experiment in language change

                                      favicon

                                      (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                                      cronopio@nrw.social
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                                      @alexhaist
                                      1200 is more guessing than reading.
                                      🧝 : "The languages of humans are many, and they change faster than a dragon flies."

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                                      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                        I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                                        mycrowgirl@flipping.rocks
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                                        @alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.

                                        Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.

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                                        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                          This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                          In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          How far back in time can you understand English?

                                          An experiment in language change

                                          favicon

                                          (www.deadlanguagesociety.com)

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                                          thebreadmonkey@beige.party
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                                          @alexhaist

                                          This is excellent and yes, 1300 for me was when I tapped out

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