"Should BC require every internet user's privacy to be invaded?" would be a more accurate headline here, CBC.

[ukeleleeric@mstdn.social]

@jackwilliambell @datum @dgregor79 @Paulatics @pluralistic I think that most places in my country err on the side of caution by checking age for certain items and places (pubs, bars, nightclubs) by saying 'If you look under 25, we will ask you to prove you are 18 or over'. My son was asked once to prove he was 18, on his 18th birthday! But I have never known a place here do more than check the relevant details.

[datum@zeroes.ca]

@minmi sooo https://martlet.ca/inside-b-c-s-barwatch-program/

[argonel@dice.camp]

@minmi @datum @dgregor79 @Paulatics @pluralistic expect the behavior would be more like a reverse auction. They sell it to every bidder at the highest value they are willing to pay.

[minmi@sfba.social]

@datum yuuuuuuuuck

[datum@zeroes.ca]

@jackwilliambell I would have to dig through privacy legislation, and I'm no lawyer, but I understood BC Privacy law used to say that it was illegal to require collection of most PII.

However also in BC, nightclubs have a "voluntary" ID scan. You can choose to not patronize them.

Anyways my understanding of privacy law is likely wrong so I'll amend that post; thank you for flagging the likely error!

[tessarakt@mastodon.social]

@UkeleleEric @jackwilliambell @datum @dgregor79 @Paulatics @pluralistic When I was young, we made a point by showing our driver's license for movies etc.

[brhfl@digipres.club]

@jackwilliambell @datum @dgregor79 @Paulatics @pluralistic yeah, that struck me as odd too. certainly not everywhere yet, but scanning ids is becoming more and more prevalent. of course with no transparency as to what system they’re using, no privacy or retention policies to review, &c.

[franceskamann@freeradical.zone]

@pluralistic @dgregor79 @datum @Paulatics @jackwilliambell

A lot of chain stores scan IDs. When I tell them I'm happy to show them my ID but don't want it scanned, they refuse to make the sale. So I walk. But then I shop at Costco and they have cameras on everyone and monitor every item you purchase. Which they sell to their advertisers.

ID's give a lot of personal data. ID checks are data mining and they do it to sell us out.

[jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.com]

@brhfl @datum @dgregor79 @Paulatics @pluralistic

Not to mention: How would a cashier know what the system does with the data? It's so frustrating to deal with people who have no clue, either as to how the technology works or how it can be/will be used in privacy invasive ways.

I just look them in the eye and say, "I used to write code for things like this. I know how the sausage is made. Trust me, you have no idea…"

[jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.com]

@FranceskaMann @pluralistic @dgregor79 @datum @Paulatics

> ID's give a lot of personal data. ID checks are data mining and they do it to sell us out.

Absolutely.

[pinhman@humanwords.party]

@datum Effective regulation of social media will be what legislators can force social media companies to reveal.

Will this force social media to develop zero knowledge protocols that allow regulation without revealing what social media wish to hold private?

Would these be enough of a compromise to regulate effectively, as social media works to build a sophisticated knowledge of every noble and ugly idea our public hold and monetize every part of this?