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@davidrevoy This comic looks quite different to me than your others (also before I read your description). Less traditional cartoon-like and more painterly. Somehow even the facial features and expressions seem quite affected. Both styles are nice, but there’s a certain charm and expressiveness to this one here.
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@stefan @yuki2501 About the trauma.
Yes... and No.It feels more and more to me that I'm beating here a dead horse with this theme.
Often my radar feel that when Firefox starts get code ready in prod for a technobro trend. I interpret that as if I was watching the last wagon of the AI trend train in tech... the last ripple of influence... and it might mean it's already dead somewhere. Just a personal intuition.@davidrevoy @stefan @yuki2501 my opinion of the AI(LLM) situation is that there has been irreversible damage done, the laws on copyright were intentionally circumvented and governments all star struk by tech-bros let them have a "copyright law doesn't apply to you, you must be free to steal to succeed" exception. It is not the technology that is a threat, it is the lawless application of it.
Genuine creativity itself is hugely devalued by the art theft.
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Everything is so bad that for a long time there have been puzzles, notebooks, notebooks and other things on sale, where the image created by AI is applied, and low-quality
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@davidrevoy But hey, in the last panel you can at least wipe with an AI ad!
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@davidrevoy Here!
A way out!
https://github.com/Stevoisiak/Stevos-GenAI-Blocklist/@dereel Yes, these type of list are precious.
Thanks for showing solutions like that on this thread.I recently saw that the uBlock team added "EasyList - AI Widgets' on the Dashboard settings, an optional one (it require user to activate it in "Annoyance" section) but a good one!
For a long time I had this one: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist but for the needs of my mini series and my research on the topic I temporarily deactivated it since November.
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Everything is so bad that for a long time there have been puzzles, notebooks, notebooks and other things on sale, where the image created by AI is applied, and low-quality
@Sau_Wolf Yes, and they are so easy to spot. Recently, I saw a poster for a festival in my city, another poster for a DJ/Dancing event, and a "pet toileting/grooming salon"(sorry, I miss vocabulary for this type of shop) with a AIgen logo...
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@davidrevoy I like that you can see the brushstrokes in the final image.
@fell Thank you! I'll try to keep this economy of brush stroke. It's more difficult than smoothing all surfaces, but on the pro side, it is slightly faster, and the result feels more human and spontaneous, so I have motivation to train this ability and continue.
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@Sau_Wolf Yes, and they are so easy to spot. Recently, I saw a poster for a festival in my city, another poster for a DJ/Dancing event, and a "pet toileting/grooming salon"(sorry, I miss vocabulary for this type of shop) with a AIgen logo...
@davidrevoy There are literally a bunch of calendars, notebooks, and so on, and all this using some nameless Ai models that have nothing but the sinister valley effect, and they buy this slag.
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@davidrevoy I watched the video before reading your comment so I was already thinking along the lines of, "oh wow sketching with blobs of color, I wonder what the tradeoffs are vs line art".
Now I'm really curious how many different traditions of... for lack of vocabulary, "order of operations" for constructing a piece of art there are.I would guess a lot but I'm very ignorant in this area.
@kevingranade Thank you. Your intuition is right: a lot! But the main family branches are (imho):
- Sketches/line colored then optionally painted over (the colored drawing workflow)
- Greyscale painting then recolored (the grisaille)
- Direct painting ('Alla prima' family), the one here.I started painting this way 11 years ago ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lMLEuxSLk ) but I went back to colored drawing because I couldn't paint perspective, anatomy and pose.
Maybe now, with more skill, I can revisit.
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@davidrevoy this is beautiful and fascinating to watch, like a dream coming into focus, the opposite way round to how I've been trying to draw
(is this video on your website?)
@ifixcoinops Thank you! Yes, it approach the scene with big blocks of sort of Nintendo64 low poly resolution ( a pass named 'blocking' ), then directly on the top a paint-over with smaller brush, and layers of glazing to adjust the tones, light and shadows.
Yes, it's on my server, but I don't have yet a front-end php/html/css page to list the making-of (on my TODO!). The directory is here:
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@davidrevoy I have a couple of illustrators in my family (partner, nephew) and I'm always insisting in that, to my humble taste, the more artistic, expressive, interesting, poetic, etc., version of their draws, is that which they call drafts, sketches, etc. I understand the ideas of clean and polished, but for me the magic is mostly in that primitive or improvised phase, where the creative search is still an uncut gem, let's say... I guess, tastes. But for me, seems like live music, let's say.
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Thank you. I sort of learn more and more to appreciate this small "built-in' mistakes that I have hard time to correct while sketching or painting directly (eg. Like on this ballpoint pen sketch on my sketchbook). Those 'honnest mistakes' due to the process itself and skill is a good "human made" signature in our times. When I post fix my art too much, I get comment suspicious that I used AIgen now anyway. 
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Timelapse/Making-of video: https://www.peppercarrot.com/0_sources/miniFantasyTheater/making-of/038.mp4 It's not often that I paint directly from scratch with no sketch or line art, so I wanted to share this one. It's a risky technique, and I'm even eyeballing all the perspective, no grids here. I also avoid blending and smoothing, showing the brushstrokes on the canvas more clearly. I'm doing this to incorporate 'errors made naturally by humans', and I like it. It feels closer to the spontaneous style I like in my ballpoint pen sketches.
@davidrevoy Your process seems almost as if your molding clay, refining the forms until they fit, but instead of clay you mold color.
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Thank you. I sort of learn more and more to appreciate this small "built-in' mistakes that I have hard time to correct while sketching or painting directly (eg. Like on this ballpoint pen sketch on my sketchbook). Those 'honnest mistakes' due to the process itself and skill is a good "human made" signature in our times. When I post fix my art too much, I get comment suspicious that I used AIgen now anyway. @davidrevoy I really love this. Really beautiful work.
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I guess is in general the aesthetics of preference to me. But this illustration in particular is awesome. 
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Finally the best place for it with @stefano 's windows xp sticker
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