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  3. While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly.

While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly.

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  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

    @benroyce
    OMG tears of joy and admiration

    @CStamp

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    @Yehuda @CStamp

    It's such a great lesson in life

    There are constraints placed on what success means

    But you can succeed on your own terms, your own way, by your own standards. And sometimes that can outshine what others have decided success means

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    • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

      @rolf_b_lh I can’t find that he did, though some of the professionals included them in their shows.

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      @CStamp will try to find later. Now I say good night 🙂

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      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

        @jmcrookston Yeah, she knew she was going to lose anyway so thought she would at least go out in style. 🙂

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        @CStamp

        Bonaly was the only female athlete capable of the skill at that time, and later told reporters that she wanted to “show the judges – who don’t appreciate what I do – just what I can do.”

        forbes.com

        favicon

        (www.forbes.com)

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        • mor696@mastodon.socialM mor696@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @CStamp

          Sometimes being yourself is simply more important than conforming!

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          #42

          @Mor696 @benroyce @CStamp most times

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          • rolf_b_lh@muenster.imR rolf_b_lh@muenster.im

            @CStamp will try to find later. Now I say good night 🙂

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            @CStamp It was Terry Kubicka at the 1976 Olympics, my memory was wrong.
            It was then counted a double (jump? what is a Lutz or Flip or Toeloop called in english?), if my memory is right this time 🙂 and was forbidden very soon after.

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            • rolf_b_lh@muenster.imR rolf_b_lh@muenster.im

              @CStamp It was Terry Kubicka at the 1976 Olympics, my memory was wrong.
              It was then counted a double (jump? what is a Lutz or Flip or Toeloop called in english?), if my memory is right this time 🙂 and was forbidden very soon after.

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              @rolf_b_lh He landed on two skates. She was the first to land on one skate. They said a two foot landing didn’t count as a real jump, it had to be possible to land on one foot.

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              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                @rolf_b_lh He landed on two skates. She was the first to land on one skate. They said a two foot landing didn’t count as a real jump, it had to be possible to land on one foot.

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                @CStamp Ah, right you are!
                I saw his backflip back then, and I wasn't sure if I liked it - looked like an experiment to me.
                But now I have seen hers, too (on youtube), and that one was better by far.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @CStamp

                  #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                  She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                  And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                  "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                  Be like Surya

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                  @benroyce @CStamp I also saw her doing this backflip when she was over 40, with pins on her back on a rink smaller than the competition ones.

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                  • angelina@mastodon.onlineA angelina@mastodon.online

                    @benroyce @CStamp I also saw her doing this backflip when she was over 40, with pins on her back on a rink smaller than the competition ones.

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                    @Angelina @CStamp

                    yeah i read about her back issues 😬

                    her feats look amazing but the toll on the body... uggh

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @tshirtman @CStamp

                      there's more to it

                      she had a lot of resentment towards the judges. she turned her back to the judges after finishing and bowed to the fans

                      she complained of ageism (like with gymnastics it's appalling). she got unusually low scores. "After 10 years, I am used to it"

                      she was injured and considered dropping out. after her error she spontaneously decided to launch into the backflip and land on one foot

                      she said she did it because it was "easier" (?!)

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Bonaly#1997%E2%80%931998_season:_Third_Olympics

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                      @benroyce @tshirtman @CStamp
                      I watched all of it back then, because I was figure skating myself at the time.
                      The judges did her dirty so many times, she finally had it.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @CStamp

                        #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                        She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                        And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                        "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                        Be like Surya

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                        @benroyce
                        Plus... She's French 🇫🇷 🥳
                        (I didn't know about this story, it's amazing !)
                        @CStamp

                        #SuryaBonaly #Nagano #WinterOlympics #backflip #figureskating

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                        • niavy@masto.bikeN niavy@masto.bike

                          @benroyce
                          Plus... She's French 🇫🇷 🥳
                          (I didn't know about this story, it's amazing !)
                          @CStamp

                          #SuryaBonaly #Nagano #WinterOlympics #backflip #figureskating

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                          @niavy @CStamp

                          it really is amazing, and a powerful lesson in life:

                          "we define the terms on how you succeed and excel"

                          "no. i define the terms on how i succeed and excel"

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                          • kadsenchaos@23.socialK kadsenchaos@23.social

                            @benroyce @tshirtman @CStamp
                            I watched all of it back then, because I was figure skating myself at the time.
                            The judges did her dirty so many times, she finally had it.

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                            @Kadsenchaos @tshirtman @CStamp

                            there's racism in there too

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @Kadsenchaos @tshirtman @CStamp

                              there's racism in there too

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                              @benroyce @Kadsenchaos @tshirtman Sadly, yep.

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                              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                                "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                                “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                                #BlackHistory

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                                @CStamp made me search the Web and learn several things thank you.
                                I found this short informative too
                                https://youtube.com/shorts/Q0NvfIvGR10?si=SWSFltBLplZEl1Yq

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                                • jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ jaystephens@mastodon.social

                                  @CStamp made me search the Web and learn several things thank you.
                                  I found this short informative too
                                  https://youtube.com/shorts/Q0NvfIvGR10?si=SWSFltBLplZEl1Yq

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                                  @jaystephens If you look through this thread, you’ll learn a lot more about why she chose to do the backflip while knowing she would get deductions. With regards to the flip, the first guy did a two foot landing. When they banned it because they thought it dangerous, they added that unless it could be done with a single foot landing, it didn’t qualify as a jump anyway. Surya Bonaly was the first to do the backflip and land it on one foot. 🙂

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                                  • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                    @jaystephens If you look through this thread, you’ll learn a lot more about why she chose to do the backflip while knowing she would get deductions. With regards to the flip, the first guy did a two foot landing. When they banned it because they thought it dangerous, they added that unless it could be done with a single foot landing, it didn’t qualify as a jump anyway. Surya Bonaly was the first to do the backflip and land it on one foot. 🙂

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                                    @CStamp yeah I haven't dug into what exactly she was protesting and why, that's next 👍

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @CStamp

                                      #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                                      She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                                      And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                                      "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                                      Be like Surya

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                                      @benroyce @CStamp I am irrationally angry that they cut that backflip in half like five times and showed it complete maybe once.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @CStamp

                                        #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                                        She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                                        And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                                        "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                                        Be like Surya

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                                        @benroyce @CStamp On a side note, I saw Surya live during the Albertville Winter Olympics, and she was an absolute delight to behold.

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