I'm one of those audiophiles who go on about speaker settings and placement, cables and DACs to play all my vinyl and high bitrate music, and force people listen to 'my incredible setup'.
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I'm guessing that he doesn't mean that he had the left and right speakers reversed. I'm thinking more he had the polarities reversed on his speakers. Which is even funnier.
@angiebaby @fesshole I presumed they meant they had the left audio channel going to the speaker on their right, and the right audio channel going to the speaker on their left.
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@angiebaby @fesshole I presumed they meant they had the left audio channel going to the speaker on their right, and the right audio channel going to the speaker on their left.
Calling himself an "audiophile", I suspect he probably owns a stereo-test-and-demonstration CD and he would have caught it right away if it was a matter of the speakers being wired right-to-left. Reversing the (- +) polarity on the pairs of wires for each speaker would cause phasing problems at best, and possible long-term speaker damage at worst.
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Yeah. Some things make a real difference, but, with speaker cable, IMHO, good enough is good enough.
Oh but you need the little stands to keep the cable off the floor. /S
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I'm one of those audiophiles who go on about speaker settings and placement, cables and DACs to play all my vinyl and high bitrate music, and force people listen to 'my incredible setup'. Turns out I've had my left/right speakers the wrong way round. For 7 years.
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Ehhh, polaritys the only thing that really matters, if its flipped you might not notice unless its supposed to match the music video or smth -
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Can I ask a question? What do audio engineers do about age-related hearing drop-out? Almost everyone starts losing high frequencies in their early thirties. What happens then? Does it matter at all?@beng @IsItBroke They move on to a lucrative career in America editing sound for late night infomercials.
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@fesshole Can't be much of an "audiophile", can ya?
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I'm guessing that he doesn't mean that he had the left and right speakers reversed. I'm thinking more he had the polarities reversed on his speakers. Which is even funnier.
@angiebaby @fesshole why not both ?
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@IsItBroke
Can I ask a question? What do audio engineers do about age-related hearing drop-out? Almost everyone starts losing high frequencies in their early thirties. What happens then? Does it matter at all?@beng
You’re right; the audio course I teach involves me playing a sweep 20hz - 20Khz and asking the attendees to lower a hand when they stop hearing it - I’m down at 12Khz now (could hear all the way >20Khz as a young man).
There is some self-adjustment; people just get used to how things now sound and some of the most respected mastering engineers are middle-aged men (Bob Clearmountain is old!) but as I sometime say “AM sounds like HiFi to me now!” -
I'm one of those audiophiles who go on about speaker settings and placement, cables and DACs to play all my vinyl and high bitrate music, and force people listen to 'my incredible setup'. Turns out I've had my left/right speakers the wrong way round. For 7 years.
@fesshole you audiophilistine.
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@IsItBroke @mansr @CppGuy @fesshole
Of course it technically makes a difference. But as your hearing ends at 20khz, assuming you have a ton of ringing on the cable (say 9 meaningful reflections), that *still* wouldn't do anything until a cable length of a full kilometer. Which you really shouldn't have between your amp and your speakers, for obvious reasons.
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@LevelUp @fesshole Obviously with test tracks that clearly indicate the channels you'll easily notice. With actual music, even when there is a clear difference between the channels, you typically have no way of knowing which way it was meant to be. It won't sound wrong with the channels flipped unless you know what to expect.
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@PipGowenlock @LevelUp @fesshole Yes, very clear channel separation, but flipping it doesn't make it sound wrong if you've only heard it that way.
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I'm one of those audiophiles who go on about speaker settings and placement, cables and DACs to play all my vinyl and high bitrate music, and force people listen to 'my incredible setup'. Turns out I've had my left/right speakers the wrong way round. For 7 years.
@fesshole I had a class on signal processing with a world class researcher in signal transfer at uni.
Anyhow, he bluntly stated that all the audiophiles who buy expensive wires are wasting their money because there's no friggin way you can tell the difference.
The auditorium was in a rage fueled uproar. Half the folks were "audiophiles", and couldn't afford to have their life choices, and thus intelligence, questioned, it seemed.
Those of us who weren't audiophiles were quite entertained.
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@fesshole Can't be much of an "audiophile", can ya?
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@fesshole Are there any audiophiles, literally any at all, who actually like music?
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@flipper “speaker cables are literally either on the left for left speakers” is absolutely made up and you know it.
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I'm one of those audiophiles who go on about speaker settings and placement, cables and DACs to play all my vinyl and high bitrate music, and force people listen to 'my incredible setup'. Turns out I've had my left/right speakers the wrong way round. For 7 years.
@fesshole I was hoping this was going to end with "all my music is MP3s from LimeWire"
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@IsItBroke @mansr @CppGuy @fesshole
Of course it technically makes a difference. But as your hearing ends at 20khz, assuming you have a ton of ringing on the cable (say 9 meaningful reflections), that *still* wouldn't do anything until a cable length of a full kilometer. Which you really shouldn't have between your amp and your speakers, for obvious reasons.
@dascandy @IsItBroke @mansr @CppGuy @fesshole Yes, and that 20Hz to 20kHz is mostly theoretical anyway. Most people hear nothing above 15kHz and instruments rarely go above 10kHz even if you take harmonics into account. Lower frequencies are also mostly noise rather than anything worthwhile musically which is why many analog mixing desks have a button on each channel enabling a 80Hz low cut filter for convenience.
