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  • lea@lea.petL lea@lea.pet

    @adafruit@fosstodon.org are we deadass comparing people being upset about AI slop to discrimination now

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    #4

    @adafruit@fosstodon.org jesus fucking christ i thought adafruit was chill

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    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

      No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

      In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

      Just a moment...

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      #5

      @adafruit

      Wow. First, thank you, @adafruit , for all you do for the #STEAM community and those of us who just want to tinker, learn, and create.

      It looks to me like you had an idea and used AI tools to do some of the leg work to get it done. And that you checked the work before “shipping it”. That is a perfectly legitimate use of AI.

      It also sounds like you were tinkering and learning about the tools as you went, too. That is the spirit of creativity.

      Keep up the good work!

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      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

        Just a moment...

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        #6

        @adafruit holy hell are you trying to say "AI slop isn't bad yall just hate us because a woman did it" what the fuck

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        • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

          No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

          In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

          Just a moment...

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          (blog.adafruit.com)

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          #7

          @adafruit@fosstodon.org a lot of the people who complained about your use of ai slop weren't men ffs (myself included)

          you're ruining your reputation. i liked paying a premium to support adafruit, but no longer

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          • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

            No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

            In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

            Just a moment...

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            #8

            @adafruit People who use AI are disliked and called out by many people, regardless of sex or gender. Stross made a dumb mistake, but this blog post is just as bad. Can we just collectively drop this stupid shit before it gets even dumber?

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            • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

              No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

              In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (blog.adafruit.com)

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              #9

              @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

              Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

              As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

              burnoutqueen@todon.nlB teflontrout@beige.partyT theorangetheme@en.osm.townT raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR 40796c19@void.lgbt4 5 Replies Last reply
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              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                Just a moment...

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                (blog.adafruit.com)

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                #10

                @adafruit This is amazingly embarrassing. Just astoundingly bad. No.

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                • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                  No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                  In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (blog.adafruit.com)

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                  #11

                  @adafruit "AI Slop isn't harmful you guys are just misogynistic" lmao???? where's the part where your company collapses for being operated by the world's greatest piece of shit

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                  • sterophonick@wetdry.worldS sterophonick@wetdry.world

                    @adafruit "AI Slop isn't harmful you guys are just misogynistic" lmao???? where's the part where your company collapses for being operated by the world's greatest piece of shit

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                    #12

                    @adafruit how much more embarrassing can you get?

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                    • renedudfield@fosstodon.orgR renedudfield@fosstodon.org

                      @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

                      Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

                      As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

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                      #13

                      @renedudfield @adafruit

                      I am actually disabled and I don't use AI. Saying that I'm too stupid to do things myself, that I need Sam Altman's and Elon Musk's slop machine because I can't make things fast enough, is an insult

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                      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                        Just a moment...

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                        (blog.adafruit.com)

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                        #14

                        @adafruit You really did not have to post this.

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                        • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                          @renedudfield @adafruit

                          I am actually disabled and I don't use AI. Saying that I'm too stupid to do things myself, that I need Sam Altman's and Elon Musk's slop machine because I can't make things fast enough, is an insult

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                          #15

                          @renedudfield @adafruit

                          I am also a trans woman

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                          • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                            No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                            In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                            Just a moment...

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                            (blog.adafruit.com)

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                            #16

                            @adafruit I am a trans woman and I hate AI slop.

                            I don't support using tools invented by anti environmental, sexist, pedophillic men.

                            ChatGPT is used to objectify women. It is used to devalue the work of young and disabled people. It is an insult to the craft of electronics. It is an insult to the disabled. And it is an insult to the thousands of women who have been put into porn without their consent by way of "genAI" technology.

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                            • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                              @adafruit I am a trans woman and I hate AI slop.

                              I don't support using tools invented by anti environmental, sexist, pedophillic men.

                              ChatGPT is used to objectify women. It is used to devalue the work of young and disabled people. It is an insult to the craft of electronics. It is an insult to the disabled. And it is an insult to the thousands of women who have been put into porn without their consent by way of "genAI" technology.

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                              #17

                              @adafruit and no, none of the other models are any better.

                              Grok is in the center of a pedophilia scandal, for just one example.

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                              • renedudfield@fosstodon.orgR renedudfield@fosstodon.org

                                @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

                                Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

                                As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

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                                @renedudfield @adafruit "employed by Microslop"? Shocking

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                                • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                                  @renedudfield @adafruit

                                  I am also a trans woman

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                                  #19

                                  @burnoutqueen @renedudfield @adafruit same here, a woman and literally bedridden, and absolutely disgusted by genAI and LLMs

                                  also, my observation over the last year or two is that those that defend genAI, LLMs, and their disgusting owners tend to be men

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                                  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                    No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                    In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                    Just a moment...

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                                    #20

                                    @adafruit Using fake feminism and a bunch of invalid comparisons to defend a technology that men are more likely to use than women ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.06556 ) and which use consolidates all power and money into the hands of a few billionares (all men).

                                    No. No collaboration with LLMs, no credibility for LLM defenders, no fascist AI future. And no more Adafruit orders from me

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      @adafruit Using fake feminism and a bunch of invalid comparisons to defend a technology that men are more likely to use than women ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.06556 ) and which use consolidates all power and money into the hands of a few billionares (all men).

                                      No. No collaboration with LLMs, no credibility for LLM defenders, no fascist AI future. And no more Adafruit orders from me

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                                      #21

                                      @mcc not to mention they harassed several people and revealed private personal info (mine) recently. all in "defense" of anyone critical of their ai usage.

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                                      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                        Just a moment...

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                                        (blog.adafruit.com)

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                                        #22

                                        @adafruit You already have plenty of women in your replies telling you this is ridiculous and shameful but I'd like to add one more.

                                        Pretending our anti-AI convictions are sexist is insulting.

                                        Pretending AI is as useful as my vacuum cleaner is laughable.

                                        Pretending we need this technology is embarrassing.

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                                        • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                          No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                          In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                          Just a moment...

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                                          #23

                                          @adafruit hi ptorrone! are you tired of ban-evading and harassing people yet?

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