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  • cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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    cwebber@social.coop
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    The slop huckster's dilemma:

    "AI assisted tools are powerful but they should only be used by experts to work on things they're already experts in"

    AND

    It's hard to build expertise without going through the hard problems yourself, and the human brain is not conditioned to go through the hard things when there is a magical lever you could just pull that mostly does it for you

    cwebber@social.coopC pinhman@mstdn.caP shanecelis@mastodon.gamedev.placeS chris_evelyn@fedi.chris-evelyn.deC 4 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      The slop huckster's dilemma:

      "AI assisted tools are powerful but they should only be used by experts to work on things they're already experts in"

      AND

      It's hard to build expertise without going through the hard problems yourself, and the human brain is not conditioned to go through the hard things when there is a magical lever you could just pull that mostly does it for you

      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      Another contradiction: I also see people saying both "there are a lot of errors sure, which is why I only use it on things I'm already an expert in" AND "AI really helps me explore new fields I don't know about"

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Another contradiction: I also see people saying both "there are a lot of errors sure, which is why I only use it on things I'm already an expert in" AND "AI really helps me explore new fields I don't know about"

        riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cwebber So now you know which kind of cognitive style tends to get people caught in the quicksand slop the fastest.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          The slop huckster's dilemma:

          "AI assisted tools are powerful but they should only be used by experts to work on things they're already experts in"

          AND

          It's hard to build expertise without going through the hard problems yourself, and the human brain is not conditioned to go through the hard things when there is a magical lever you could just pull that mostly does it for you

          pinhman@mstdn.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cwebber an expert becomes one by making every mistake, understanding every failure by experiencing it and finding the short-comings, bad assumptions, poor logic ..learning

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            The slop huckster's dilemma:

            "AI assisted tools are powerful but they should only be used by experts to work on things they're already experts in"

            AND

            It's hard to build expertise without going through the hard problems yourself, and the human brain is not conditioned to go through the hard things when there is a magical lever you could just pull that mostly does it for you

            shanecelis@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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            shanecelis@mastodon.gamedev.place
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            #5

            @cwebber “In a world of bullshit jobs, we figured a bullshit generator could save us some trouble. And it looked like it did… at first.”

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Another contradiction: I also see people saying both "there are a lot of errors sure, which is why I only use it on things I'm already an expert in" AND "AI really helps me explore new fields I don't know about"

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              modulux@node.isonomia.net
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              @cwebber Speaking for myself, I have used it to teach myself maths I didn't know, and yes, there were errors. So what it requires is being extremely disciplined about evaluating every step in a proof, making sure it's valid, ideally reproduce the work oneself. (I know there are other ways to learn maths, but few which are accessible to me. But this may extend to areas where results are sufficiently formally constrained.)

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                Another contradiction: I also see people saying both "there are a lot of errors sure, which is why I only use it on things I'm already an expert in" AND "AI really helps me explore new fields I don't know about"

                dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cwebber then there's the final boss: you're a lawyer or Ars Technica writer or whatever, a proven expert in your field, and you use AI without checking anyway.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  The slop huckster's dilemma:

                  "AI assisted tools are powerful but they should only be used by experts to work on things they're already experts in"

                  AND

                  It's hard to build expertise without going through the hard problems yourself, and the human brain is not conditioned to go through the hard things when there is a magical lever you could just pull that mostly does it for you

                  chris_evelyn@fedi.chris-evelyn.deC This user is from outside of this forum
                  chris_evelyn@fedi.chris-evelyn.deC This user is from outside of this forum
                  chris_evelyn@fedi.chris-evelyn.de
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                  @cwebber It‘s like when they say „AI will only replace junior programmers“ and I want to shake them and shout at them where they think senior programmers come from

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