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I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac.

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  • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    pixelate@tweesecake.social
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    I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

    I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

    #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

    N darrell73@mastodon.onlineD karalg84@dragonscave.spaceK robini71@dragonscave.spaceR amy0223@mindly.socialA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

      I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

      I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

      #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

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      nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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      @pixelate My brother tried to play Rimworld on the Mac and it worked, but it took him a really long time to get set up. It's easy on windows.

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      • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

        I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

        I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

        #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

        darrell73@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
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        darrell73@mastodon.online
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        @pixelate Agreed 100%. I gave MacOS a try for awhile between 2012 - 2016 and eventually gave up as I saw VoiceOver falling further and further behind.

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        • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

          I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

          I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

          #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

          karalg84@dragonscave.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @pixelate Agreed.

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          • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

            I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

            I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

            #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

            robini71@dragonscave.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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            robini71@dragonscave.space
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            @pixelate This makes me laugh. I love my iPhone I truly do but me and the #Mac never hit it off nearly as well.

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            • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

              I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

              I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

              #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

              amy0223@mindly.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @pixelate @mcourcel The more I see voiceover falling behind on iOS, the more elated I am that I never had the finances to buy literally into the Apple ego driven hype. I’ll never own a Mac of any kind because Apple piss poor designed and development isn’t worth the price. I do understand that for some especially deafblind who need to connect other devices sans speech such as their braille display that windows isn’t an option because if you cannot hear you cannot connect these things without an interloper. And who really wants that? I wouldn’t were I in that situation. But it’s a crime and a tragedy that Apple must get their hard earned cash for something that doesn’t make their insane price points worth it. Honestly I don’t like Apple on the whole; the company and products. But I use them because after a decade plus of using it, and having played with Android and found it usable, Apple is still imho more intuitive and has less of a learning curve.

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                @pixelate @mcourcel The more I see voiceover falling behind on iOS, the more elated I am that I never had the finances to buy literally into the Apple ego driven hype. I’ll never own a Mac of any kind because Apple piss poor designed and development isn’t worth the price. I do understand that for some especially deafblind who need to connect other devices sans speech such as their braille display that windows isn’t an option because if you cannot hear you cannot connect these things without an interloper. And who really wants that? I wouldn’t were I in that situation. But it’s a crime and a tragedy that Apple must get their hard earned cash for something that doesn’t make their insane price points worth it. Honestly I don’t like Apple on the whole; the company and products. But I use them because after a decade plus of using it, and having played with Android and found it usable, Apple is still imho more intuitive and has less of a learning curve.

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                @amy0223 @mcourcel Yeah, Braille is much, much more fleshed out on iOS, and apps are usually much more accessible on iOS. Even stuff like accessibility acctions, in the rotor/reading controls, are just now becoming a thing devs know about on Android, while it's been a thing on iOS since iOS 4.

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                  @pixelate @mcourcel The more I see voiceover falling behind on iOS, the more elated I am that I never had the finances to buy literally into the Apple ego driven hype. I’ll never own a Mac of any kind because Apple piss poor designed and development isn’t worth the price. I do understand that for some especially deafblind who need to connect other devices sans speech such as their braille display that windows isn’t an option because if you cannot hear you cannot connect these things without an interloper. And who really wants that? I wouldn’t were I in that situation. But it’s a crime and a tragedy that Apple must get their hard earned cash for something that doesn’t make their insane price points worth it. Honestly I don’t like Apple on the whole; the company and products. But I use them because after a decade plus of using it, and having played with Android and found it usable, Apple is still imho more intuitive and has less of a learning curve.

                  pixelate@tweesecake.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @amy0223 @mcourcel But then you got people who use a Mac that sometimes sound like the Mac is literally perfect and superceeds Windows in every way, and it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong or just not trying hard enough.

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                  • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                    I don't understand how blind people can enjoy the Mac. I open the Kindle app. Okay? The Kindle app. Pretty important. It opens the sign in window. I interact with the “Amazon Sign-In" area. I hear “In frame”. And in that frame are the items “Amazon”. "Sign”. "In”. That's it. No username, no password, nothing.

                    I just don't get it. How do people enjoy such an unyielding brick wall of an experience?

                    #accessibility #apple #mac #kindle

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                    rperez030@tweesecake.social
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                    @pixelate I think there are things we can enjoy about pretty much any platform. I like the Mail app in macOS more than the Windows email clients, and the Drafts app for quick writing. That's why I use a Mac as my primary device, but run Windows in a virtual machine. I use a Windows pc for work, but spend most of my day in WSL. What I don't enjoy using, in any platform, is that Kindle app. I prefer to get my books without drm, and only buy from the Kindle store when I have no choice. I think each platform is unique, and it is great that we have choices.

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                    • R rperez030@tweesecake.social

                      @pixelate I think there are things we can enjoy about pretty much any platform. I like the Mail app in macOS more than the Windows email clients, and the Drafts app for quick writing. That's why I use a Mac as my primary device, but run Windows in a virtual machine. I use a Windows pc for work, but spend most of my day in WSL. What I don't enjoy using, in any platform, is that Kindle app. I prefer to get my books without drm, and only buy from the Kindle store when I have no choice. I think each platform is unique, and it is great that we have choices.

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                      @rperez030 Where do you get books without DRM? I have Kindle Unlimited, so a lot of books are, practically, free. Especially a lot of litRPG's and progression fantasy. What VM software do you use for Mac? I need to get into Drafts.

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