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Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

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  • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

    @GreenRoc If it's helpful, I can at least look up the process for you if you tell me what state you were born in.

    Or not. I'm just trying to be helpful, not trying to insert myself where I'm not needed.

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    @faithisleaping I'm in California, but dont worry about helping here. I should just contact my social worker.

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    • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

      But this would obviously impact a lot of poor, marginalized, and low propensity voters as well.

      It's facially illegal and unconstitutional for a lot of reasons, too, of course, but you can't rely on Republican captured courts to strike it down either.

      The SAVE Act is a classic Republican tactic of leveraging Americans' racism and a fake panic over immigrants to push what is effectively a soft coup.

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      Republicans and the media will tell you these concerns are overblown.

      So why is Trump so desperate for it that he's vowed to veto all other legislation until it gets passed?

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      • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

        Republicans and the media will tell you these concerns are overblown.

        So why is Trump so desperate for it that he's vowed to veto all other legislation until it gets passed?

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        @gwynnion
        Oh did he switch his 'never sign anything else' to 'veto everything else'?

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        • greenroc@mastodon.socialG greenroc@mastodon.social

          @faithisleaping I'm in California, but dont worry about helping here. I should just contact my social worker.

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          @GreenRoc Looks like you can get it from the California Department of Public Health and it's $31 plus whatever it costs to get it notarized (typically $10-15). Your social worker should be able to help you sort out of the rest of the details.

          https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CHSI/Pages/Vital-Records-Obtaining-Certified-Copies-of-Birth-Records.aspx

          But it will involve getting the application notarized so you'll probably have to do it on a day when you feel up to leaving the house. Most banks and pack-and-ship places have notaries. Your social worker should be able to help you find one.

          Good luck! 💜 And I'm sorry your parents kind of screwed you over on that one.

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          • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

            Republicans have said repeatedly that women are their political enemies and they don't think women should be allowed to vote because of it.

            They think they would win every election in perpetuity forever.

            Think about that.

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            @gwynnion tell that to Republican women

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            • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

              Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

              The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

              Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

              Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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              @gwynnion

              No matter what they may say, assume that it's either worse than they let on or the opposite of what they suggest.

              There's no reason for them to be dishonest at this point, since everyone knows who they are and what they do. But still they want to lie. They can't help themselves.

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              • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

                The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

                Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

                Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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                @gwynnion It's called voter suppression.

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                • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                  Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

                  The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

                  Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

                  Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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                  @gwynnion There's some deceptive language in the bill that says that a REAL ID which proves citizenship is acceptable at the polls. The trick is that most REAL IDs do not prove citizenship -- legal resident aliens are eligible, and get them all the time. The ones that do ("enhanced" REAL ID) are available in only a few border states, and most residents of those states don't have them because even there, it's an extra bother.

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                  • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                    @disorderlyf Ken Paxton has blocked all of those options as part of his ongoing war on trans people and has been collecting a database of people requesting name and gender marker changes even on their driver's licenses.

                    My name change was done decades ago but never affected my birth certificate, and even a court order to that effect would be refused these days.

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                    @gwynnion I knew he was collecting absurd amounts of data but I wasn't sure if it was even still possible. It sounds like even if you weren't discouraged by the blatantly nazi-like policy, it's impossible now.

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                    • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                      Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

                      The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

                      Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

                      Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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                      @gwynnion Non-native speaker here, but i think it's spelled "treason", not "reason" /s

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                      • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                        Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

                        The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

                        Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

                        Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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                        @gwynnion It can of course be fixed with asymmetric enforcement, but are these requirements not also going to be a challenge for a significant part of the MAGA base?

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                        • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                          Republicans talk about the SAVE Act as if it just requires a photo ID.

                          The voter registration and proof of citizenship requirements are the real problem, as most state driver's licenses won't count as valid ID.

                          Having to register in person with an overpriced passport, which most people don't need, or a birth certificate in your current name, is designed to frustrate millions of Americans, especially married women who changed their names.

                          Trump is begging Republicans to pass it for a reason.

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                          @gwynnion it galls me that the Republicans are going to claim they can roll this out for the next election when it has taken a decade or so to get REAL ID rolled out, and that is a less smelly pile of crap.

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