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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

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  • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

    You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

    Solar and wind energy

    collectifission@greennuclear.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @greenpeace And nuclear energy. Works great for years on end without any imports.

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    • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

      You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

      Solar and wind energy

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      @greenpeace if too many cargo ships are held up the Chinese solar arrays won't get delivered.

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      • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

        @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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        @TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?

        This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.

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        • vnkr@mastodon.socialV vnkr@mastodon.social

          @TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?

          This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.

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          @vnkr @greenpeace So, the game is blaming? It's not a pissing contest for blame. Regulatory issues, totally agree on that one. Recycling and energy capacity issues, also agree. Outdated current technology, maybe. But shouting who's to blame will not help us one inch further into a better battery solution. More money to science maybe.

          Putting a stop to burning fuels...is ...currently....not ....globally ...possible.

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          • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

            @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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            @TomDB @greenpeace Bull 💩

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            • meema1616@mastodon.socialM meema1616@mastodon.social

              @TomDB @greenpeace Bull 💩

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              @Meema1616 @greenpeace Proove me wrong based on science, the current geopolitics and with regard for lands use for global renewable energy compared to land use for foods if that's all you can post.

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              • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                @vnkr @greenpeace So, the game is blaming? It's not a pissing contest for blame. Regulatory issues, totally agree on that one. Recycling and energy capacity issues, also agree. Outdated current technology, maybe. But shouting who's to blame will not help us one inch further into a better battery solution. More money to science maybe.

                Putting a stop to burning fuels...is ...currently....not ....globally ...possible.

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                @TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace Follow the $$. The Petroleum Industry owns the world and they are NOT giving up all they reap from it! People need to push for more solar and wind. So this is a perfect opportunity for them too have their voices amplified!!

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                • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                  @vnkr @greenpeace So, the game is blaming? It's not a pissing contest for blame. Regulatory issues, totally agree on that one. Recycling and energy capacity issues, also agree. Outdated current technology, maybe. But shouting who's to blame will not help us one inch further into a better battery solution. More money to science maybe.

                  Putting a stop to burning fuels...is ...currently....not ....globally ...possible.

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                  @TomDB @greenpeace ah, you are right. Let's not mention it then. Just keep using oil.

                  The comment was designed to provoke a thought that perhaps there's a better way of powering out lives. But alas, not currently possible. Dismissed 🙂

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                  • vnkr@mastodon.socialV vnkr@mastodon.social

                    @TomDB @greenpeace ah, you are right. Let's not mention it then. Just keep using oil.

                    The comment was designed to provoke a thought that perhaps there's a better way of powering out lives. But alas, not currently possible. Dismissed 🙂

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                    @vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.

                    I’d rather see them pressuring governments. I’m all for that.

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                    • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                      @Meema1616 @greenpeace Proove me wrong based on science, the current geopolitics and with regard for lands use for global renewable energy compared to land use for foods if that's all you can post.

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                      @TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace
                      Here's a good video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

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                      • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                        @Meema1616 @greenpeace Proove me wrong based on science, the current geopolitics and with regard for lands use for global renewable energy compared to land use for foods if that's all you can post.

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                        @TomDB @greenpeace You ask for science and I return with ecological advantage. Solar panels produce zero greenhouse gases (GHGs) like carbon dioxide during operation.
                        A single residential system can offset approximately 100,000 pounds of carbon over 20 years, equivalent to planting over 100 trees annually.
                        Long term the distribution of solar or wind gives this planet a longer life. Lining pockets of petroleum billionaires not so much.

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                        • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                          @vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.

                          I’d rather see them pressuring governments. I’m all for that.

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                          @TomDB @greenpeace only common people together can do anything. Governments won't do shit if not pushed from below.
                          And making common people think about these topics is the first step into making some of them act.

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                          • meema1616@mastodon.socialM meema1616@mastodon.social

                            @TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace Follow the $$. The Petroleum Industry owns the world and they are NOT giving up all they reap from it! People need to push for more solar and wind. So this is a perfect opportunity for them too have their voices amplified!!

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                            @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.

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                            • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                              @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.

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                              @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I feel Greenpeace is barking at the wrong tree, we all, myself included, do want a change in energy use. But we already know that. It still is a process, which takes time, more than we want but still it does. Amplifying a message is nice, playing along the policy way to change it is better. They should TALK more and invest in the science communication of it to pursuade them.

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                              • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.

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                                @TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace governments absolutely need to do that. But they won't do that if we don't tell them it needs to be done.

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                                • vnkr@mastodon.socialV vnkr@mastodon.social

                                  @TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace governments absolutely need to do that. But they won't do that if we don't tell them it needs to be done.

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                                  @vnkr @Meema1616 @greenpeace I haven’t met many governments that listened to their citizens unfortunately. 🫤

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                                  • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                    @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I feel Greenpeace is barking at the wrong tree, we all, myself included, do want a change in energy use. But we already know that. It still is a process, which takes time, more than we want but still it does. Amplifying a message is nice, playing along the policy way to change it is better. They should TALK more and invest in the science communication of it to pursuade them.

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                                    @TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace I will continue the conversation but will ALWAYS PUSH FOR A CLEAN AIR PLANET SURVIVAL STRATEGY. Sorry my caps lock stayed on. 🤦‍♀️ Billionaires have had their day dictating how I live. I’m a loud and proud planet advocate 👍

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                                    • meema1616@mastodon.socialM meema1616@mastodon.social

                                      @TomDB @greenpeace You ask for science and I return with ecological advantage. Solar panels produce zero greenhouse gases (GHGs) like carbon dioxide during operation.
                                      A single residential system can offset approximately 100,000 pounds of carbon over 20 years, equivalent to planting over 100 trees annually.
                                      Long term the distribution of solar or wind gives this planet a longer life. Lining pockets of petroleum billionaires not so much.

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                                      @greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.

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                                      • meema1616@mastodon.socialM meema1616@mastodon.social

                                        @TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace I will continue the conversation but will ALWAYS PUSH FOR A CLEAN AIR PLANET SURVIVAL STRATEGY. Sorry my caps lock stayed on. 🤦‍♀️ Billionaires have had their day dictating how I live. I’m a loud and proud planet advocate 👍

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                                        @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I applaud that, and I also wish for that future, but again, that was not my point. We're just not ready from a practical standpoint to switch all the fossil fuels right now to no fossil use. And greenpeace has been stubborn in keeping that narrative to the people like it already is. It's just not. Don't I want less fossil use? Off course I do. But I'm not blind for the reality of the present. No worries on the caps-lock 😉

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                                        • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                                          You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                                          Solar and wind energy

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                                          @greenpeace geothermal & passivhaus

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