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AI Use Appears to Have a “Boiling Frog” Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

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  • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

    @mastodonmigration @metin

    We shall talk about “artificial stupidity / insanity“ consistently from now on, refusing the implied sales pitch altogether.

    Maybe using the correct attribution will fix it? 💡 😇

    #AIslop -> #ArtificialStupidity / ArtificialInsanity / LazyLyingMachines

    robertobottoni@troet.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin
    Stop hyping, name the danger. I have so many AI drunk colleagues and friends, that is what I am doing in conversations. I get hated but it’s worth it.

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    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

      @metin

      Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

      Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

      All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

      metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @mastodonmigration Wow, a truly disturbing development. 😓

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      • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

        @mastodonmigration @metin

        We shall talk about “artificial stupidity / insanity“ consistently from now on, refusing the implied sales pitch altogether.

        Maybe using the correct attribution will fix it? 💡 😇

        #AIslop -> #ArtificialStupidity / ArtificialInsanity / LazyLyingMachines

        metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration Or Actual Incompetence. 😉

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        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

          @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration Or Actual Incompetence. 😉

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          #17

          @metin

          We're slowly getting there! However we name it - let's just reject the implied sales pitches and simply call it what it actually is. 👍

          @mastodonmigration

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          • robertobottoni@troet.cafeR robertobottoni@troet.cafe

            @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin
            Stop hyping, name the danger. I have so many AI drunk colleagues and friends, that is what I am doing in conversations. I get hated but it’s worth it.

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            @robertobottoni @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration I’ve recently added my thoughts about gen-AI to my homepage, here’s a screenshot of that part…

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            Metin Seven 🎨 (@metin@graphics.social)

            Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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            • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

              @metin

              unused things atrophy. True for skills, processes, things.

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              @TeflonTrout agreed…

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              Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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              • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                @mastodonmigration Wow, a truly disturbing development. 😓

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                @metin

                Thanks for posting the article. We are going to look back on these early indicators of how damaging AI is to society and wish we had done more to protect ourselves.

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                • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                  @mastodonmigration @metin

                  To their credit: They at least understood early on how it's not actually about learning anything but all about getting the paperwork and certificates that open up entry to vastly better paying jobs. Clever! 😇

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                  @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin I ended up doing it wrong - learned a bunch of stuff, both on syllabus and through having access to the 90s Internet and alumni, my grades were awful except for a couple of subjects that I really engaged with. Only getting a desmond had zero impact on my career thankfully, probably wouldn't work as well now, but I was able to go straight into work, and while very green, within 6 months of working in industry had started to really get how things worked (aside from the complexities of BGP and some DNS which remained some sort of dark magic for another decade or so working in the industry)

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                  • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                    @robertobottoni @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration I’ve recently added my thoughts about gen-AI to my homepage, here’s a screenshot of that part…

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                    Metin Seven 🎨 (@metin@graphics.social)

                    Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                    @metin

                    Not much to add. Except there are of course more edge cases where a machine can actually provide meaningful clues - like inspecting parts for faults, marking those on images in order to aid with quality control of castings or welded surfaces like modern combustion engine cylinder surfaces where tiny faults might be easy to miss and quite a tedious job to thoroughly inspect in large numbers like we do in industrial production. Even with those, however, you still need skilled humans to tell if it's mere specs of dirt and dust or actual faults, though, so applications are very limited, indeed.

                    @robertobottoni @mastodonmigration

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                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                      @metin

                      Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

                      Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

                      All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

                      sherwoodinc@floss.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mastodonmigration @metin I went and looked it up. The long dash usages give it away 🤣

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                      • sherwoodinc@floss.socialS sherwoodinc@floss.social

                        @mastodonmigration @metin I went and looked it up. The long dash usages give it away 🤣

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                        @sherwoodinc @metin

                        Yup, probably should have identified it sooner, and will be more alert in the future.

                        To be clear, the purpose here is not to call anyone out, who may have just been trying to engage on a subject they found interesting.

                        Rather it was to share an example that relates to the boiling pot thesis of the above article.

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                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                          @metin

                          Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

                          Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

                          All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

                          cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mastodonmigration @metin I mean, there were a lot of overconfident nitwits before LLM slop.

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                          • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                            @mastodonmigration @metin I mean, there were a lot of overconfident nitwits before LLM slop.

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                            #26

                            @cascheranno @metin

                            Indeed

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @cascheranno @metin

                              Indeed

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                              @mastodonmigration @cascheranno I wonder if the increasing "AI" use will result in a rise of brain diseases such as dementia, due to a lack of mental exercise.

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                              • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                @mastodonmigration @metin I mean, there were a lot of overconfident nitwits before LLM slop.

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                                @mastodonmigration @metin they were just more obvious to those of us who took the time to learn (both facts and scientific method)

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                                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                  @sherwoodinc @metin

                                  Yup, probably should have identified it sooner, and will be more alert in the future.

                                  To be clear, the purpose here is not to call anyone out, who may have just been trying to engage on a subject they found interesting.

                                  Rather it was to share an example that relates to the boiling pot thesis of the above article.

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                                  @mastodonmigration @metin I am thinking that maybe, in this case, it could also be someone using an AI based translator?

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                                  • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                    AI Use Appears to Have a “Boiling Frog” Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

                                    "In a new study, researchers claim to provide the first causal evidence that leaning on AI to assist with “reasoning-intensive” cognitive labor — mental tasks ranging from writing to studying to coding to simply brainstorming new ideas — can rapidly impair users’ intellectual ability and willingness to persist despite difficulty."

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                                    AI Use Appears to Have a "Boiling Frog" Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

                                    A new study claims to offer the first causal link between AI dependency and cognitive erosion. Researchers warn of long-term implications.

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                                    #tech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #FuckAI

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                                    @metin I was a programmer for 45 years so at some point writing code became really easy, not really a cognitive strain. A machine that can create, test, modify and deploy software given plain language instructions is sort of the holy grail of business leaders since the beginning. I asked AI why it writes code, rather than just deploying native machine instructions, and it replied with lame 1980’s coding 101 manual reasons but one given was ‘so people can read it’. (1/2)

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                                    • grovewest@mstdn.socialG grovewest@mstdn.social

                                      @metin I was a programmer for 45 years so at some point writing code became really easy, not really a cognitive strain. A machine that can create, test, modify and deploy software given plain language instructions is sort of the holy grail of business leaders since the beginning. I asked AI why it writes code, rather than just deploying native machine instructions, and it replied with lame 1980’s coding 101 manual reasons but one given was ‘so people can read it’. (1/2)

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                                      So I see a day coming where AI churns out many millions of lines of code a day and human code readers will be in big demand. (2/2)

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                                      • grovewest@mstdn.socialG grovewest@mstdn.social

                                        So I see a day coming where AI churns out many millions of lines of code a day and human code readers will be in big demand. (2/2)

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                                        @Grovewest I think so too. There will be a revival of human insight and craft. Same for artwork.

                                        On which systems did you start coding? I started programming on the Commodore 64, then became an Amiga game developer. Good ol' pre-internet times, sending and receiving disks by snail mail. 😁👍

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                                        • sherwoodinc@floss.socialS sherwoodinc@floss.social

                                          @mastodonmigration @metin I am thinking that maybe, in this case, it could also be someone using an AI based translator?

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                                          @sherwoodinc @metin

                                          Maybe, but don't think so, because the terminology is too consistent with corporate marketing literature.

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