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AI Use Appears to Have a “Boiling Frog” Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

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  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

    @metin

    Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

    Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

    All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

    gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @mastodonmigration @metin

    Oh great. Now we start arguing with AI even if we don't use 'em, just because some morons like to pretend they're competent at everything, feel smug about being able to feed an AI or what? Bollocks!

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    • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

      @mastodonmigration @metin

      Oh great. Now we start arguing with AI even if we don't use 'em, just because some morons like to pretend they're competent at everything, feel smug about being able to feed an AI or what? Bollocks!

      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @GNUmatic @metin

      It was very unsettling. Went back and reviewed their responses and they were not only full of errors, but flat and dry and just oddly off putting. Still trying to fathom what regurgitating such slop does to a young human mind.

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      • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

        AI Use Appears to Have a “Boiling Frog” Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

        "In a new study, researchers claim to provide the first causal evidence that leaning on AI to assist with “reasoning-intensive” cognitive labor — mental tasks ranging from writing to studying to coding to simply brainstorming new ideas — can rapidly impair users’ intellectual ability and willingness to persist despite difficulty."

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        AI Use Appears to Have a "Boiling Frog" Effect on Human Cognition, New Study Warns

        A new study claims to offer the first causal link between AI dependency and cognitive erosion. Researchers warn of long-term implications.

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        #tech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #FuckAI

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        @metin

        unused things atrophy. True for skills, processes, things.

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @metin

          Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

          Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

          All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

          kielkontrovers@norden.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @mastodonmigration @metin so I am goin to talking to an AI,mwhen I am talking to a person. contaminated bei an AI.

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          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

            @GNUmatic @metin

            It was very unsettling. Went back and reviewed their responses and they were not only full of errors, but flat and dry and just oddly off putting. Still trying to fathom what regurgitating such slop does to a young human mind.

            gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @mastodonmigration @metin

            Either way. If I catch anyone, it's an instant block. What the... 🤯

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            • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

              @mastodonmigration @metin

              Either way. If I catch anyone, it's an instant block. What the... 🤯

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              @GNUmatic @metin

              Apparently it is very common on university campuses now. Things are moving fast.

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              College Students Losing Ability to Participate in Class Discussions Due to Offloading Their Thinking to AI

              Students from all walks of life are becoming homogenized as they increasingly outsource their brains to AI chatbots.

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                @GNUmatic @metin

                Apparently it is very common on university campuses now. Things are moving fast.

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                College Students Losing Ability to Participate in Class Discussions Due to Offloading Their Thinking to AI

                Students from all walks of life are becoming homogenized as they increasingly outsource their brains to AI chatbots.

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                Futurism (futurism.com)

                gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @mastodonmigration @metin

                To their credit: They at least understood early on how it's not actually about learning anything but all about getting the paperwork and certificates that open up entry to vastly better paying jobs. Clever! 😇

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                • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                  @mastodonmigration @metin

                  To their credit: They at least understood early on how it's not actually about learning anything but all about getting the paperwork and certificates that open up entry to vastly better paying jobs. Clever! 😇

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                  #10

                  @GNUmatic @metin

                  Guess so

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @GNUmatic @metin

                    Guess so

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                    #11

                    @mastodonmigration @metin

                    TODO:
                    Learn to maintain the current appliances. Later versions my simply not work or arrive broken by design. 💡

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                    • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                      @mastodonmigration @metin

                      TODO:
                      Learn to maintain the current appliances. Later versions my simply not work or arrive broken by design. 💡

                      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @GNUmatic @metin

                      Or just ticking time bombs insideously and unwittingly filled with slop both human and AI generated.

                      A favorite recent post...

                      jonny (nonvenomous) (@jonny@neuromatch.social)

                      my dogs if i may drop public informational tone for a moment i think it is fucking awful for a society of living creatures to be sold a future wherein everything is fucking broken and inexplicable and at the mercy of a black box run for the profit of four corporations. I think it is fucking awful to have an industry that claims to sell the notion of of "intelligence" as utility, like water, as a cover for a trojan horse high that makes the wielder feel like a god by corroding everything they touch, like acid. we used to have "intelligence" run like a wild stream through these parts, a byproduct of people "living their brilliant little lives," but these days it's all on the meter and belches brown from the faucet as a firehose of microplastics and lead leached straight to the dome

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                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                        @GNUmatic @metin

                        Or just ticking time bombs insideously and unwittingly filled with slop both human and AI generated.

                        A favorite recent post...

                        jonny (nonvenomous) (@jonny@neuromatch.social)

                        my dogs if i may drop public informational tone for a moment i think it is fucking awful for a society of living creatures to be sold a future wherein everything is fucking broken and inexplicable and at the mercy of a black box run for the profit of four corporations. I think it is fucking awful to have an industry that claims to sell the notion of of "intelligence" as utility, like water, as a cover for a trojan horse high that makes the wielder feel like a god by corroding everything they touch, like acid. we used to have "intelligence" run like a wild stream through these parts, a byproduct of people "living their brilliant little lives," but these days it's all on the meter and belches brown from the faucet as a firehose of microplastics and lead leached straight to the dome

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                        neurospace.live (neuromatch.social)

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                        #13

                        @mastodonmigration @metin

                        We shall talk about “artificial stupidity / insanity“ consistently from now on, refusing the implied sales pitch altogether.

                        Maybe using the correct attribution will fix it? 💡 😇

                        #AIslop -> #ArtificialStupidity / ArtificialInsanity / LazyLyingMachines

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                        • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                          @mastodonmigration @metin

                          We shall talk about “artificial stupidity / insanity“ consistently from now on, refusing the implied sales pitch altogether.

                          Maybe using the correct attribution will fix it? 💡 😇

                          #AIslop -> #ArtificialStupidity / ArtificialInsanity / LazyLyingMachines

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                          @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin
                          Stop hyping, name the danger. I have so many AI drunk colleagues and friends, that is what I am doing in conversations. I get hated but it’s worth it.

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @metin

                            Had a discussion here yesterday which sounded reasonable, until it became clear that half the points the other person was making were just wrong, and realized they were getting it all from asking an LLM for responses.

                            Turned out they had no knowledge of the subject at all and were confidently arguing nonsense.

                            All this strange sounding falsity is now being exchanged everywhere, all the time. It's so sad. We are raising a generation of nitwits.

                            metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                            metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                            metin@graphics.social
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                            #15

                            @mastodonmigration Wow, a truly disturbing development. 😓

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                            • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                              @mastodonmigration @metin

                              We shall talk about “artificial stupidity / insanity“ consistently from now on, refusing the implied sales pitch altogether.

                              Maybe using the correct attribution will fix it? 💡 😇

                              #AIslop -> #ArtificialStupidity / ArtificialInsanity / LazyLyingMachines

                              metin@graphics.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration Or Actual Incompetence. 😉

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                              • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration Or Actual Incompetence. 😉

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                                @metin

                                We're slowly getting there! However we name it - let's just reject the implied sales pitches and simply call it what it actually is. 👍

                                @mastodonmigration

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                                • robertobottoni@troet.cafeR robertobottoni@troet.cafe

                                  @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin
                                  Stop hyping, name the danger. I have so many AI drunk colleagues and friends, that is what I am doing in conversations. I get hated but it’s worth it.

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                                  @robertobottoni @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration I’ve recently added my thoughts about gen-AI to my homepage, here’s a screenshot of that part…

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                                  Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                                  • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

                                    @metin

                                    unused things atrophy. True for skills, processes, things.

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                                    @TeflonTrout agreed…

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                                    Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                                    • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                      @mastodonmigration Wow, a truly disturbing development. 😓

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                                      @metin

                                      Thanks for posting the article. We are going to look back on these early indicators of how damaging AI is to society and wish we had done more to protect ourselves.

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                                      • gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.deG gnumatic@mastodon.trueten.de

                                        @mastodonmigration @metin

                                        To their credit: They at least understood early on how it's not actually about learning anything but all about getting the paperwork and certificates that open up entry to vastly better paying jobs. Clever! 😇

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                                        @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration @metin I ended up doing it wrong - learned a bunch of stuff, both on syllabus and through having access to the 90s Internet and alumni, my grades were awful except for a couple of subjects that I really engaged with. Only getting a desmond had zero impact on my career thankfully, probably wouldn't work as well now, but I was able to go straight into work, and while very green, within 6 months of working in industry had started to really get how things worked (aside from the complexities of BGP and some DNS which remained some sort of dark magic for another decade or so working in the industry)

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                                        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                          @robertobottoni @GNUmatic @mastodonmigration I’ve recently added my thoughts about gen-AI to my homepage, here’s a screenshot of that part…

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                                          Metin Seven 🎨 (@metin@graphics.social)

                                          Attached: 1 image I've recently summed up my thoughts on generative "AI" on my homepage. Here's a screenshot of that section. #tech #technology #BigTech #IT #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #ML #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AIAgent #AISlop #FuckAI #Fuck_AI #enshittification #microslop #microsoft #copilot #meta #google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                                          @metin

                                          Not much to add. Except there are of course more edge cases where a machine can actually provide meaningful clues - like inspecting parts for faults, marking those on images in order to aid with quality control of castings or welded surfaces like modern combustion engine cylinder surfaces where tiny faults might be easy to miss and quite a tedious job to thoroughly inspect in large numbers like we do in industrial production. Even with those, however, you still need skilled humans to tell if it's mere specs of dirt and dust or actual faults, though, so applications are very limited, indeed.

                                          @robertobottoni @mastodonmigration

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