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A tale in 3 pictures.

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  • jwo@mastodonczech.czJ jwo@mastodonczech.cz

    @citizen428 That's called GNU M4.

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    @jwo Technically it's called an ill-advised use of my time that should never have happened, but yeah.

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    • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

      @jwo Technically it's called an ill-advised use of my time that should never have happened, but yeah.

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      @citizen428 Well, something like this is provided as a quasi-standard Kotlin/Ktor library IIRC.

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      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

        @citizen428
        Macros are a really bad idea that should never be used in C. They are unfortunately needed in Assembler, but assembler, other than to boot strap a compiler is not needed for the last 30 years. Not even on microcontrollers (see Forth and JAL).

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        @raymaccarthy I would have thought the "extremely bad idea" cartoon in the first image made it clear that I agree with this. But this is chaos.social and "Spaß am Gerät" (loosely "Fun with the device) is basically the CCC motto.

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        • phantasus@fedi.atP phantasus@fedi.at

          @overflo @citizen428 Kinky geeks wäre mindestens mit Seilen. Das ist nur vanilla "kreativ".

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          @phantasus @overflo Woher weisst du dass hier keine Seile involviert waren?

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          • sashin@veganism.socialS sashin@veganism.social

            @citizen428 I did this with rust before!

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            @sashin Rust having proper macros makes this a lot easier, see e.g. https://maud.lambda.xyz

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            • jwo@mastodonczech.czJ jwo@mastodonczech.cz

              @citizen428 Well, something like this is provided as a quasi-standard Kotlin/Ktor library IIRC.

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              @jwo Yup, kotlinx.html. Rust has https://maud.lambda.xyz. There's plenty of precedent, but that doesn't make this specific late night digression a good idea.

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              • m3tti@functional.cafeM m3tti@functional.cafe

                @citizen428 if it works don't fix it i guess. Somehow it feels like react but without the reactivity 😄

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                @m3tti Depends on your definition of "works" 😄 I'd not be inclined to actually use this.

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                • schaf@netzkms.deS schaf@netzkms.de

                  @citizen428 old and busted: php as a c preprocessor¹

                  hot and new: c preprocessor as a php

                  ¹ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/396644/replacements-for-the-c-preprocessor/16256052#16256052

                  Edit: Originalquelle verlinkt

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                  @schaf That's exactly what the lolsob emoji is for.

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                  • joe@f.duriansoftware.comJ joe@f.duriansoftware.com

                    @jrose @citizen428 to their credit, they did say it was a bad idea

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                    @joe @jrose I thought it was rather obvious that this is not a serious suggestion, then I added the cartoon just in case.

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                    • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                      @joe @jrose I thought it was rather obvious that this is not a serious suggestion, then I added the cartoon just in case.

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                      @citizen428 @joe Yeah, sorry, I didn’t mean it as a mark against you either! It just rang a bell, having run into people attempting to do even a less silly thing.

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                      • ics@tau-ceti.spaceI ics@tau-ceti.space

                        @citizen428 @eniko Impressive! 😳😍

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                        @ics @eniko

                        Not the first word I’d use 😂

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                        • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                          @ics @eniko

                          Not the first word I’d use 😂

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                          @citizen428 @eniko The first words were "WTF????" - that's why the first emoji 😂😂

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                          • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                            @necrophcodr Funny you'd say that, because this (`clang -I. -P -E`) but in another context is how this little side quest started.

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                            @citizen428 I mean it has simple uses too, like adding simple include statements in any file, or, as you've shown, macros.

                            I've used it to make a lockfile for my Containerfile, and I'd just build using cpp -E <file> | docker build -f- <...>

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                            • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                              The horrors:

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                              C preprocessor abuse

                              C preprocessor abuse. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

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                              Gist (gist.github.com)

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                              @citizen428 I highly recommend combining this with a MAP macro.

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                              • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                                @citizen428 I highly recommend combining this with a MAP macro.

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                                @ryanc Please don’t give me ideas 😂

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                                • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                                  The horrors:

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                                  C preprocessor abuse. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

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                                  @citizen428 omg, you even serve it right from C code?! God, I want to unsee this...

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                                  • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                                    A tale in 3 pictures. In which our hero wonders if he can and doesn't stop to ask if he should.

                                    #c #programming

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                                    @citizen428 finally, webdev in C

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                                    • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                                      @ryanc Please don’t give me ideas 😂

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                                      @citizen428 Fine. I will not inflict further ideas upon you, but why do you hate fun?

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                                      • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                                        A tale in 3 pictures. In which our hero wonders if he can and doesn't stop to ask if he should.

                                        #c #programming

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                                        @citizen428
                                        Finally somebody's optimised CGI.pm's html functions

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                                        Documentation for CGI.pm Legacy HTML Functionality

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                                        • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                                          A tale in 3 pictures. In which our hero wonders if he can and doesn't stop to ask if he should.

                                          #c #programming

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                                          @citizen428 this is funny, because this idea is real (more or less). The https://penpot.app is made this way!

                                          It's written in Clojure language, that also has a feature of creating macros (although with better syntax checks). We use the `rumext` framework, that defines macros that are expanded in compile time into HTML, react style.

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                                          So here is your idea working in a hugely complex application, with the (little) issue that it's in a language with good macros... 😅

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