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A tale in 3 pictures.

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  • tea@chaos.socialT tea@chaos.social

    @citizen428 reminds me of the horrors me and @friz64 were up to, also serving an entire web page from an ESP32 as one big string iirc, base64 encoded images and all.

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    @tea @citizen428 @friz64 reminded of tue gbs-control building a webpage into a byte array and spitting it out at runtime, as well as saving and loading files in a flash filesystem
    and the gazillion associated race conditions
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    • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

      A tale in 3 pictures. In which our hero wonders if he can and doesn't stop to ask if he should.

      #c #programming

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      @citizen428 This is extra bad because cpp isn't specified in a way you can necessarily cough up matching text and different compilers resolve that problem in their preprocessed output in different ways...

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      • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

        @Lemmus @citizen428 https://github.com/crazy-eddie/arduino_modern/blob/capacities/include/hardware/chip/atmega328p.hpp

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        @crazyeddie @Lemmus @citizen428 The HTML thing is mostly fine. The macros are being used basically as intended.

        But this.......

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        • wonka@chaos.socialW wonka@chaos.social

          Looks a bit like perlcgi.

          @Lemmus @citizen428

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          @wonka @Lemmus I did (do?) have a soft spot for Perl 🙂

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          • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

            @Lemmus @citizen428 https://github.com/crazy-eddie/arduino_modern/blob/capacities/include/hardware/chip/atmega328p.hpp

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            @crazyeddie @Lemmus Is there a word for the combination of impressed and revolted? Because I definitely feel imvolted after seeing this 😉

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            • necrophcodr@layer8.spaceN necrophcodr@layer8.space

              @citizen428 some slight modifications, and you can use cpp -E + that to make a static site generator using the preprocessor.

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              @necrophcodr Funny you'd say that, because this (`clang -I. -P -E`) but in another context is how this little side quest started.

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              • phantasus@fedi.atP phantasus@fedi.at

                @leyrer @citizen428 I would say finally that the C pre-processor is nearing the realm of the mighty lisp macro systems.

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                @phantasus @leyrer If only. But nothing is stopping you from running a custom preprocessor like m4 as part of the build system. Though that seemed like overkill for what was supposed to be a half hour diversion.

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                • hannahk@floss.socialH hannahk@floss.social

                  @citizen428 Glorious

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                  @hannahk The things we do to avoid actual work, eh? 🙂

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                  • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                    @citizen428 I mean, this is actually not *that* far off from what lispers do when generating sites in lisp
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                    @reiddragon Sure, but compared to operating on an AST simple text substitution only gets you this far.

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                    • millihertz@oldbytes.spaceM millihertz@oldbytes.space

                      @citizen428

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                      @millihertz 10/10 emoji reaction.

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                      • tea@chaos.socialT tea@chaos.social

                        @citizen428 reminds me of the horrors me and @friz64 were up to, also serving an entire web page from an ESP32 as one big string iirc, base64 encoded images and all.

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                        @tea @friz64 I'd unironically like to learn more about this.

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                        • jwo@mastodonczech.czJ jwo@mastodonczech.cz

                          @citizen428 That's called GNU M4.

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                          @jwo Technically it's called an ill-advised use of my time that should never have happened, but yeah.

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                          • citizen428@chaos.socialC citizen428@chaos.social

                            @jwo Technically it's called an ill-advised use of my time that should never have happened, but yeah.

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                            @citizen428 Well, something like this is provided as a quasi-standard Kotlin/Ktor library IIRC.

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                            • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                              @citizen428
                              Macros are a really bad idea that should never be used in C. They are unfortunately needed in Assembler, but assembler, other than to boot strap a compiler is not needed for the last 30 years. Not even on microcontrollers (see Forth and JAL).

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                              @raymaccarthy I would have thought the "extremely bad idea" cartoon in the first image made it clear that I agree with this. But this is chaos.social and "Spaß am Gerät" (loosely "Fun with the device) is basically the CCC motto.

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                              • phantasus@fedi.atP phantasus@fedi.at

                                @overflo @citizen428 Kinky geeks wäre mindestens mit Seilen. Das ist nur vanilla "kreativ".

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                                @phantasus @overflo Woher weisst du dass hier keine Seile involviert waren?

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                                • sashin@veganism.socialS sashin@veganism.social

                                  @citizen428 I did this with rust before!

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                                  @sashin Rust having proper macros makes this a lot easier, see e.g. https://maud.lambda.xyz

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                                  • jwo@mastodonczech.czJ jwo@mastodonczech.cz

                                    @citizen428 Well, something like this is provided as a quasi-standard Kotlin/Ktor library IIRC.

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                                    @jwo Yup, kotlinx.html. Rust has https://maud.lambda.xyz. There's plenty of precedent, but that doesn't make this specific late night digression a good idea.

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                                    • m3tti@functional.cafeM m3tti@functional.cafe

                                      @citizen428 if it works don't fix it i guess. Somehow it feels like react but without the reactivity 😄

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                                      @m3tti Depends on your definition of "works" 😄 I'd not be inclined to actually use this.

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                                      • schaf@netzkms.deS schaf@netzkms.de

                                        @citizen428 old and busted: php as a c preprocessor¹

                                        hot and new: c preprocessor as a php

                                        ¹ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/396644/replacements-for-the-c-preprocessor/16256052#16256052

                                        Edit: Originalquelle verlinkt

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                                        @schaf That's exactly what the lolsob emoji is for.

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                                        • joe@f.duriansoftware.comJ joe@f.duriansoftware.com

                                          @jrose @citizen428 to their credit, they did say it was a bad idea

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                                          @joe @jrose I thought it was rather obvious that this is not a serious suggestion, then I added the cartoon just in case.

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