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let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

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  • pfefferle@mastodon.socialP pfefferle@mastodon.social

    let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

    (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

    * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
    * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

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    #fediverse #activitypub

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    @pfefferle Nope.

    dansup (@dansup@mastodon.social)

    Blog posts don't belong on a photo sharing platforms, IMO Just because you have a header image, doesn't mean that is main focal point of the context, or one that would be relevant to the Pixelfed community. Not to mention the spam implications, sorry @pfefferle and wordpress.

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    • pfefferle@mastodon.socialP pfefferle@mastodon.social

      let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

      (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

      * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
      * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

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      #fediverse #activitypub

      ricferrer@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

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      • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

        @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

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        @ricferrer as I said in my toot "(this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)"

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        • pfefferle@mastodon.socialP pfefferle@mastodon.social

          @ricferrer as I said in my toot "(this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)"

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          @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

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          • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

            @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

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            @pfefferle it could be an opt-in setting.

            Here are some other opinions on the subject https://mastodon.social/@dansup/116046651398251538

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            • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

              @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

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              @ricferrer but that is not the point of the discussion! this is already a problem, because if you change the post type to `Note`, pixelfed will show it, even with the full text.

              If spam or unrelevant images are the problem, than this can not (only) be fixed by blocking the `Article` type.

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              • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

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                @ricferrer @pfefferle contra point: I posted this article with a main photo https://lostfocus.de/2026/01/25/click/ - and it only shows up in Pixelfed because I do terrible things to my WordPress to still send `Note` objects instead of `Article` - it would be nice if the people who follow my blog on photo platforms can see my photos even when I stop messing with the post type

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                • pfefferle@mastodon.socialP pfefferle@mastodon.social

                  let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

                  (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

                  * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
                  * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

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                  #fediverse #activitypub

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                  @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

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                  • jaypeach53@calckeymusic.socialJ jaypeach53@calckeymusic.social

                    @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

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                    @jaypeach53 thanks for your feedback!

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                    • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                      @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

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                      @ricferrer @pfefferle

                      The more we keep thinking in terms of "platforms", the longer it will take us to make the open social web a reality.

                      PixelFed-the-backend could well be a "Generic" ActivityPub Server, separate from "PixelFed the nice way to browse and organize image posts".

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                        @manton It works quite nice on most of the text based platforms, but as I learned with my toot: we have to improve the way how blogs can best interop with the #photoverse without beeing spammy or federate unrelated featured/stock images.

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                        • jaypeach53@calckeymusic.socialJ jaypeach53@calckeymusic.social

                          @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

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                          @jaypeach53 @pfefferle Well, I have a lot of pictures (seen from others as well as mine) on Pixelfed where I would really like some text. Be it explanatory for some aspects of the shooting to more context. Currently you can put that in comments, but that is „clumsy“ I think is the right word. Just as with showing metadata for images.
                          Pixelfed is a fitting name, but sometimes you want more than just share „pixels“. 😎

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                            @manton isn't that a better fit for a text object with attachments?

                            @pfefferle

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                              @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                              Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                              In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                              @pfefferle

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                              • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                                @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                                Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                                In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                                @pfefferle

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                                @manton here's an example: https://marius.federated.id/posts/2025/may/framework

                                (But this was done in multiple steps, I have added the attached images in an edit, just now)

                                @pfefferle

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                                • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                                  @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                                  Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                                  In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                                  @pfefferle

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                                  @mariusor @manton that is what WordPress is already doing (keeping media inline and adding it as attachments).

                                  here is an example: https://browser.pub/https%3A%2F%2Factivitypub.blog%2F2026%2F01%2F12%2Fwordpress-federation-recap-of-2025%2F

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