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Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

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  • raoofphysics@scholar.socialR raoofphysics@scholar.social

    @Kimberley I hate to break it to you, but that might not change over the course of the PhD! Might still be very worth it, mind.

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    @RaoOfPhysics Having had a professional career and run a business I’m starting to think wondering if something is a good idea is just part of doing anything (maybe that’s just me!)

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    • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

      Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

      #PhD #Academia

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      @Kimberley Back in my day, one didn't seem to have to apply for a PhD place, I was just told that one was open to me (in the same institution where I was finishing my first degree), with X as supervisor.

      Then I was chatting to Y, another academic in the department. "Y'know, X's students don't usually end up with a PhD" he said.

      I was too politically naïve to understand what he was saying, and did nothing in response. I started the PhD course with X as supervisor and dropped out after a year.

      I realised some considerable time later that what Y was suggesting was that I should request a change of supervisor, presumably that Y should be my supervisor instead. But he couldn't say that explicitly - it would be unethical to poach someone else's student - it would have to look like my idea.

      So, to answer your question, I should have asked "can I have Y as my supervisor?"

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      • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

        @Kimberley Back in my day, one didn't seem to have to apply for a PhD place, I was just told that one was open to me (in the same institution where I was finishing my first degree), with X as supervisor.

        Then I was chatting to Y, another academic in the department. "Y'know, X's students don't usually end up with a PhD" he said.

        I was too politically naïve to understand what he was saying, and did nothing in response. I started the PhD course with X as supervisor and dropped out after a year.

        I realised some considerable time later that what Y was suggesting was that I should request a change of supervisor, presumably that Y should be my supervisor instead. But he couldn't say that explicitly - it would be unethical to poach someone else's student - it would have to look like my idea.

        So, to answer your question, I should have asked "can I have Y as my supervisor?"

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        @TimWardCam that sounds like a nightmare! I used to do a research support role in a different university and there was a lot of that fake politeness, although the younger academics tended to be more forthright. Thankfully my primary supervisor does have PhD graduates

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        • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

          Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

          #PhD #Academia

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          @Kimberley "Have you noticed that a recent medication change has stopped me forming new memories and I am currently incapable of learning anything so this is all a waste of everyone's time, money and opportunity?" but to be fair, my doctors should have spotted it first and it took them over a decade!

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          • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

            Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

            #PhD #Academia

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            @Kimberley what are the unwritten expectations and allowances?

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            • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

              Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

              #PhD #Academia

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              @Kimberley
              How often do PhD students in this lab meet one on one with their supervisor?

              Also, what proportion of students finish and how much time do they take; and how much better or worse is this compared to the science (or other) faculty at the university?

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              • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                #PhD #Academia

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                @Kimberley "do you plan to be here for the whole of my PhD?"

                It worked out for me, but having my supervisor leave the country was a bit of a surprise.

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                • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                  @Kimberley "do you plan to be here for the whole of my PhD?"

                  It worked out for me, but having my supervisor leave the country was a bit of a surprise.

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                  @dtl @Kimberley But sometimes that just happens. It is not necessarily planned.

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                  • mjr@masto.bikeM mjr@masto.bike

                    @Kimberley "Have you noticed that a recent medication change has stopped me forming new memories and I am currently incapable of learning anything so this is all a waste of everyone's time, money and opportunity?" but to be fair, my doctors should have spotted it first and it took them over a decade!

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                    @mjr Oh shit 😞

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                    • rocahontas@col.socialR rocahontas@col.social

                      @dtl @Kimberley But sometimes that just happens. It is not necessarily planned.

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                      @Rocahontas @Kimberley oh, that was exactly what happened. I in no way hold it against my superior.

                      I had a student approach me a few years ago to supervise them, but I couldn't at the time confirm I'd still be in the job, so I declined them.
                      They are doing well with another supervisor and I'm still in my position.

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